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From: arby on 14 Jan 2008 22:24
the infinitely great, so that we lose
ourselves in them and no longer see virtues. We find fault with perfection
itself.

358. Man is neither angel nor brute, and the unfortunate thing is that he
who would act the angel acts the brute.

359. We do not sustain ourselves in virtue by our own strength, but by the
balancing of two opposed vices, just as we remain upright amidst two
contrary gales. Remove one of the vices, and we fall into the other.

360. What the Stoics propose is so difficult and foolish!

The Stoics lay down that all those who are not at the high degree of wisdom
are equally foolish and vicious, as those who are two inches under water.

361. The sovereign good. Dispute about the sovereign good.--Ut sis contentus
temetipso et ex te nascentibus bonis.48 There is a contradiction, for in the
end they advise suicide. Oh! What a happy life, from which we are to free
ourselves as from the plague!

362. Ex senatus-consultis et plebiscitis...

To ask like passages.

363. Ex senatus-consultis et plebiscitis scelera exercentur. Seneca.
588.[49]

Nihil tam absurde dici potest quod non dicatur ab aliquo philosophorum.50

Quibusdam destinatis sententiis consecrati quae non probant coguntur
defendere.51

Ut omnium rerum sic litterarum quoque intemperantia laboramus.52

Id maxime quemque decet, quod est cujusque suum maxime.53

Hos natura modos primum dedit.54

Paucis opus est litteris ad bonam mentem.55

Si quando turpe non sit, tamen non est non turpe quum id a multitudine
laudetur.56

Mihi sic usus est, tibi ut opus est facto, fac.57

364. Rarum est enim ut satis se quisque vereatur.58

Tot circa unum caput tumultuantes deos.59

Nihil turpius quam cognitioni assertionem praecurrere.60

Nec me pudet, ut istos, fateri nescire quid nesciam.61

Melius non incipient.62

365. Thought.--All the dignity of man consists in thought. Thought is,
therefore, by its nature a wonde


From: Chris F on 15 Jan 2008 02:24
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:24:01 GMT, arby <arbyg04(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>the infinitely great, so that we lose
>ourselves in them and no longer see virtues. We find fault with perfection
>itself.
>
>358. Man is neither angel nor brute, and the unfortunate thing is that he
>who would act the angel acts the brute.
>
>359. We do not sustain ourselves in virtue by our own strength, but by the
>balancing of two opposed vices, just as we remain upright amidst two
>contrary gales. Remove one of the vices, and we fall into the other.
>
>360. What the Stoics propose is so difficult and foolish!
>
>The Stoics lay down that all those who are not at the high degree of wisdom
>are equally foolish and vicious, as those who are two inches under water.
>
>361. The sovereign good. Dispute about the sovereign good.--Ut sis contentus
>temetipso et ex te nascentibus bonis.48 There is a contradiction, for in the
>end they advise suicide. Oh! What a happy life, from which we are to free
>ourselves as from the plague!
>
>362. Ex senatus-consultis et plebiscitis...
>
>To ask like passages.
>
>363. Ex senatus-consultis et plebiscitis scelera exercentur. Seneca.
>588.[49]
>
>Nihil tam absurde dici potest quod non dicatur ab aliquo philosophorum.50
>
>Quibusdam destinatis sententiis consecrati quae non probant coguntur
>defendere.51
>
>Ut omnium rerum sic litterarum quoque intemperantia laboramus.52
>
>Id maxime quemque decet, quod est cujusque suum maxime.53
>
>Hos natura modos primum dedit.54
>
>Paucis opus est litteris ad bonam mentem.55
>
>Si quando turpe non sit, tamen non est non turpe quum id a multitudine
>laudetur.56
>
>Mihi sic usus est, tibi ut opus est facto, fac.57
>
>364. Rarum est enim ut satis se quisque vereatur.58
>
>Tot circa unum caput tumultuantes deos.59
>
>Nihil turpius quam cognitioni assertionem praecurrere.60
>
>Nec me pudet, ut istos, fateri nescire quid nesciam.61
>
>Melius non incipient.62
>
>365. Thought.--All the dignity of man consists in thought. Thought is,
>therefore, by its nature a wonde
>
well, either somebody's trolling whilst impersonating you arby, or
you've lost the plot.

in case it is the former, i've removed what appeared to be the
trolling 'counter' group.
From: Darren Salt on 15 Jan 2008 09:47
I demand that Chris F may or may not have written...

> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:24:01 GMT, arby <arbyg04(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> the infinitely great, so that we lose ourselves in them and no longer see
>> virtues. We find fault with perfection itself.
[snip - shouldn't you have done that?]

> well, either somebody's trolling whilst impersonating you arby, or
> you've lost the plot.

That looks like the same spew that's been appearing all over Usenet recently;
they're all forgeries. Ignore them, but if you have lots of them and can
filter on arbitrary headers, filter on their NNTP-Posting-Host headers to
delete them or mark them as read (but it's unlikely that you'll see *more*
from those addresses).

BTW, that one which you reposted appears to have been cancelled...

[snip]
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From: arby on 16 Jan 2008 07:12
On 15 Jan, 07:24, Chris F <ch...(a)asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:24:01 GMT, arby <arby...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >the infinitely great, so that we lose
> >ourselves in them and no longer see virtues. We find fault with perfection
> >itself.
>
> >358. Man is neither angel nor brute, and the unfortunate thing is that he
> >who would act the angel acts the brute.
>
> >359. We do not sustain ourselves in virtue by our own strength, but by the
> >balancing of two opposed vices, just as we remain upright amidst two
> >contrary gales. Remove one of the vices, and we fall into the other.
>
> >360. What the Stoics propose is so difficult and foolish!
>
> >The Stoics lay down that all those who are not at the high degree of wisdom
> >are equally foolish and vicious, as those who are two inches under water.
>
> >361. The sovereign good. Dispute about the sovereign good.--Ut sis contentus
> >temetipso et ex te nascentibus bonis.48 There is a contradiction, for in the
> >end they advise suicide. Oh! What a happy life, from which we are to free
> >ourselves as from the plague!
>
> >362. Ex senatus-consultis et plebiscitis...
>
> >To ask like passages.
>
> >363. Ex senatus-consultis et plebiscitis scelera exercentur. Seneca.
> >588.[49]
>
> >Nihil tam absurde dici potest quod non dicatur ab aliquo philosophorum.50
>
> >Quibusdam destinatis sententiis consecrati quae non probant coguntur
> >defendere.51
>
> >Ut omnium rerum sic litterarum quoque intemperantia laboramus.52
>
> >Id maxime quemque decet, quod est cujusque suum maxime.53
>
> >Hos natura modos primum dedit.54
>
> >Paucis opus est litteris ad bonam mentem.55
>
> >Si quando turpe non sit, tamen non est non turpe quum id a multitudine
> >laudetur.56
>
> >Mihi sic usus est, tibi ut opus est facto, fac.57
>
> >364. Rarum est enim ut satis se quisque vereatur.58
>
> >Tot circa unum caput tumultuantes deos.59
>
> >Nihil turpius quam cognitioni assertionem praecurrere.60
>
> >Nec me pudet, ut istos, fateri nescire quid nesciam.61
>
> >Melius non incipient.62
>
> >365. Thought.--All the dignity of man consists in thought. Thought is,
> >therefore, by its nature a wonde
>
> well, either somebody's trolling whilst impersonating you arby, or
> you've lost the plot.
>
> in case it is the former, i've removed what appeared to be the
> trolling 'counter' group.

I removed the sunderland group too. but its all very strange!
From: Darren Salt on 16 Jan 2008 22:02
I demand that arby may or may not have written...

> On 15 Jan, 14:47, Darren Salt <n...(a)youmustbejoking.demon.cu.invalid>
> wrote:
>> I demand that Chris F may or may not have written...
>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:24:01 GMT, arby <arby...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> the infinitely great, so that we lose ourselves in them and no longer
>>>> see virtues. We find fault with perfection itself.
>> [snip - shouldn't you have done that?]
>>> well, either somebody's trolling whilst impersonating you arby, or
>>> you've lost the plot.
>> That looks like the same spew that's been appearing all over Usenet
>> recently; they're all forgeries.
[snip]
> this is the 1st I've come across. I've always used html

Have you? All of your postings look like plain text to me. :-)

> It came from here:
> Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!
> border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!
> newsfeed.yul.equant.net!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.hananet.net!
> tnews.hananet.net!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!kreonet.re.kr!
> news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!news.glorb.com!
> postnews.google.com!e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail

Well... let's just say that something posted from Google Groups wouldn't take
that roundabout route to get back there :-)

[snip]
> Message-ID: <719a4943_4461-3026%7870-276dbcd09dcd(a)e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>

Fake, or altered; but Google reports "no such message" when asked about the
message ID, corrected to the format normally used in messages posted via
them.

> References: <5ust6lF1jpjdfU1(a)mid.individual.net>
> <0otio39a162507g9bg0h3fc100rs6t89d1(a)4ax.com>

Copied or not removed. The IDs are of genuine postings (one from Eyan, one
from Chris F). I wonder if this is nothing more than taking a posting,
replacing the body, mangling the message ID, and re-posting via some
compromised computer or open NNTP server...

> NNTP-Posting-Host: 219.240.36.173
> X-Trace: tnews.hananet.net 1200369694 4337 219.240.36.173 (15 Jan 2008 04:01:34 GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: newsadmin(a)hanaro.com
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:01:34 +0000 (UTC)

Genuine. Which means that the latter 40% or so of the Path header is fake or,
more likely, copied or not removed.

> think its the message ID that gives it away no?

Not really :-)

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