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> Frankie Carbone wrote:
>> "Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3c390426-2e29-449f-99c9-54aec7883ebb(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>> On 11 July, 13:43, "Frankie Carbone"
>> <francisofcarb...(a)gettofook.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>"Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>news:da87a9af-da45-4ab3-a8f4-8bb321a92269(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
>>>On 11 July, 00:04, "Frankie Carbone"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><francisofcarb...(a)gettofook.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>message
>>>
>>>>news:adaec003-ade7-4c8e-bbb4-21bc91e2911f(a)u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>On 10 July, 21:40, "Frankie Carbone"
>>>
>>>><francisofcarb...(a)gettofook.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>message
>>>
>>>>>news:aaadd1dd-e6bb-4012-b002-ae5f7c225bdb(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>Forlan 1-1
>>>>>I have foreseen it.
>>>
>>>>>Hey DS, what party do you think has the most Freeemasons?
>>>
>>>>>Der Tories Toffs or New Shite Labour
>>>
>>>>That�s the thing with secret societies, you can never know.
>>>>--
>>>
>>>>Fairy doo's but if you had to take a guess?
>>>
>>>Ok, Labour. Jimmy Conway was a Freemason, I have no doubt about that.
>>>--
>>>
>>>Sorry mate I will re-phrase that question.
>>>
>>>Fairy doo's but if you had to take an honest guess?
>>
>>
>> Can you not read. I fcking wrote 'Ok, Labour'. You will end up
>> frozen in the back of a meat wagon if you carry on like this.
>> --
>>
>> To be fair mate I did say 'an honest guess' & lets be honest about it,
>> you can envisage a Tory chomping on a cuban whilst swirling a cognac in
>> the members lounge of a membership club whilst chewing over who has the
>> best contacts in the masons etc etc
>>
>> It doesnt seem right 'scenario wise' with a labour fooker.
>>
>> I'll be honest with you Darth, I think all this masonary baiting is just
>> a facade; I honestly believe that you are a Freemason but I don't quite
>> understand your motives about this yet.
>>
>> I will lay it on the line, I think you are a Freemason but a desponent
>> one; I don't think that you appreciate the way that the Freemasons are
>> going charity wise and that you would like things to remain conservitive.
>>
>> I am correct.
>>
>
>
> The men found in masonic lodges, the judiciary, senior policemen,
> professionals, businessmen, lawyers etc. are NOT Labour voters. Definitely
> not, Francis. We know they're Tories. It's about time GH admitted it.
>
>

I completely agree.


From: Pakistan Meteorological Department on
Frankie Carbone wrote:
> "Pakistan Meteorological Department" <PMD(a)SIBU.HQ> wrote in message
> news:i1g7nf$enj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
>>Frankie Carbone wrote:
>>
>>>"Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:3c390426-2e29-449f-99c9-54aec7883ebb(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>>>On 11 July, 13:43, "Frankie Carbone"
>>><francisofcarb...(a)gettofook.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>news:da87a9af-da45-4ab3-a8f4-8bb321a92269(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
>>>>On 11 July, 00:04, "Frankie Carbone"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><francisofcarb...(a)gettofook.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>message
>>>>
>>>>>news:adaec003-ade7-4c8e-bbb4-21bc91e2911f(a)u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>On 10 July, 21:40, "Frankie Carbone"
>>>>
>>>>><francisofcarb...(a)gettofook.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>message
>>>>
>>>>>>news:aaadd1dd-e6bb-4012-b002-ae5f7c225bdb(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>Forlan 1-1
>>>>>>I have foreseen it.
>>>>
>>>>>>Hey DS, what party do you think has the most Freeemasons?
>>>>
>>>>>>Der Tories Toffs or New Shite Labour
>>>>
>>>>>That�s the thing with secret societies, you can never know.
>>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>>Fairy doo's but if you had to take a guess?
>>>>
>>>>Ok, Labour. Jimmy Conway was a Freemason, I have no doubt about that.
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>Sorry mate I will re-phrase that question.
>>>>
>>>>Fairy doo's but if you had to take an honest guess?
>>>
>>>
>>>Can you not read. I fcking wrote 'Ok, Labour'. You will end up
>>>frozen in the back of a meat wagon if you carry on like this.
>>>--
>>>
>>>To be fair mate I did say 'an honest guess' & lets be honest about it,
>>>you can envisage a Tory chomping on a cuban whilst swirling a cognac in
>>>the members lounge of a membership club whilst chewing over who has the
>>>best contacts in the masons etc etc
>>>
>>>It doesnt seem right 'scenario wise' with a labour fooker.
>>>
>>>I'll be honest with you Darth, I think all this masonary baiting is just
>>>a facade; I honestly believe that you are a Freemason but I don't quite
>>>understand your motives about this yet.
>>>
>>>I will lay it on the line, I think you are a Freemason but a desponent
>>>one; I don't think that you appreciate the way that the Freemasons are
>>>going charity wise and that you would like things to remain conservitive.
>>>
>>>I am correct.
>>>
>>
>>
>>The men found in masonic lodges, the judiciary, senior policemen,
>>professionals, businessmen, lawyers etc. are NOT Labour voters. Definitely
>>not, Francis. We know they're Tories. It's about time GH admitted it.
>>
>>
>
>
> I completely agree.
>


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--
"Entire units of the Metropolitan Police and the Flying Squad and the
drug squad were Freemasons. They all, in the end, were sent to prison.
When you are bonded by an oath of mutual defence and loyalty, you may
well find that it is extremely difficult to squeal on your corrupt brethren"

Martin Short on BBC Newsnight 19/03/01
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> http://www.artdaily.com/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=39175
>


That's not all, of course Darth will deny that he is indeed a Freemason but
will all know the truth.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3902

http://blogs.ft.com/westminster/2010/02/cameron-takes-the-lady-freemasons-to-tea/

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20041031/ai_n12591388/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/conservatives-at-the-heart-of-freemasonry-1580256.html

Nine MPs and former MPs hold posts in the highest ranks of the Freemasons -
and with one exception they are Conservative.

A study by Labour Research into the 1995 Masonic Year Book - the Who's Who
of Freemasonry - also shows that nine Tory peers occupy senior posts in the
secretive order.

The Commons Home Affairs Select Committee is due to break new ground by
holding the first parliamentary inquiry into the extent of Masonic influence
on the police and judiciary early next year.

The study also provides food for thought for Lord Nolan and his committee on
standards in public life, which has also indicated a willingness to look
into the mysterious craft.

As a law lord, Lord Nolan may find himself investigating his colleagues: 32
judges or retired judges are listed in the Masonic Year Book.

According to the book, the House of Lords has more leading Masons than the
Commons. They start with the most powerful of all, the Duke of Kent, who, as
is well-known, is grand master of the United Grand Lodge of England, the
order's governing body in this country.

The number two Mason is Lord Farnham, an Irish peer. Earlier this year, the
Irish peers lost their long campaign to be allowed to take their places in
the Lords so he does not count among the 25 top Masons in the upper house.

Of those 25, nine are Tories, 11 are crossbenchers and four do not declare
any party allegiance. One, the Duke of Kent, is above party politics as a
member of the Royal Family. The Tory peers include: Lord Belstead, a former
leader of the House of Lords; Lord Lane of Horsell, a former chair of the
National Union of Conservative Associations; and the Earl of Elgin &
Kincardine. Lord Belstead was president of the board of general purposes of
the United Grand Lodge in 1994-95, while the Earl of Elgin & Kincardine is
an ex-grand master for Scotland.

Four sitting Conservative MPs appear in the handbook: Tony Baldry, a junior
minister; Sir Gerard Vaughan; Sir Peter Emery and Ian Bruce. Of these, Mr
Bruce, who sits on a number of United Grand Lodge committees, appears to be
the most prominent.

Former MPs, all Tories, in the book are: Sir Neil Thorne, who loaned his
Westminster home for the Prime Minister's leadership campaign headquarters
in the summer; Sir Ian Percival, a former solicitor-general; Sir David
Trippier; Sir John Wells and Sir Edwin Leather. One Conservative former MEP,
Sir Peter Vanneck, is also listed.

Only one former Labour politician is in the book: Niall Macdermot, who
retired as Derby North's MP in 1970.

As well as Tories and judges, businessmen also occupy senior posts "on the
square". They include Sir John Banham, former director-general of the CBI
and a director of National Westminster Bank and National Power.

Sir Gerrard Peat, a partner in KPMG Peat Marwick, the leading accountancy
firm, is a top Mason. He is also a past auditor to the Queen's Privy Purse
and treasurer of the Association of Conservative Clubs.



From: Pakistan Meteorological Department on
Frankie Carbone wrote:
> "Pakistan Meteorological Department" <PMD(a)SIBU.HQ> wrote in message
> news:i1io36$u9m$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>>http://www.artdaily.com/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=39175
>>
>
>
>
> That's not all, of course Darth will deny that he is indeed a Freemason but
> will all know the truth.
>
> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3902
>
> http://blogs.ft.com/westminster/2010/02/cameron-takes-the-lady-freemasons-to-tea/
>
> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20041031/ai_n12591388/
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/conservatives-at-the-heart-of-freemasonry-1580256.html
>
> Nine MPs and former MPs hold posts in the highest ranks of the Freemasons -
> and with one exception they are Conservative.
>
> A study by Labour Research into the 1995 Masonic Year Book - the Who's Who
> of Freemasonry - also shows that nine Tory peers occupy senior posts in the
> secretive order.
>
> The Commons Home Affairs Select Committee is due to break new ground by
> holding the first parliamentary inquiry into the extent of Masonic influence
> on the police and judiciary early next year.
>
> The study also provides food for thought for Lord Nolan and his committee on
> standards in public life, which has also indicated a willingness to look
> into the mysterious craft.
>
> As a law lord, Lord Nolan may find himself investigating his colleagues: 32
> judges or retired judges are listed in the Masonic Year Book.
>
> According to the book, the House of Lords has more leading Masons than the
> Commons. They start with the most powerful of all, the Duke of Kent, who, as
> is well-known, is grand master of the United Grand Lodge of England, the
> order's governing body in this country.
>
> The number two Mason is Lord Farnham, an Irish peer. Earlier this year, the
> Irish peers lost their long campaign to be allowed to take their places in
> the Lords so he does not count among the 25 top Masons in the upper house.
>
> Of those 25, nine are Tories, 11 are crossbenchers and four do not declare
> any party allegiance. One, the Duke of Kent, is above party politics as a
> member of the Royal Family. The Tory peers include: Lord Belstead, a former
> leader of the House of Lords; Lord Lane of Horsell, a former chair of the
> National Union of Conservative Associations; and the Earl of Elgin &
> Kincardine. Lord Belstead was president of the board of general purposes of
> the United Grand Lodge in 1994-95, while the Earl of Elgin & Kincardine is
> an ex-grand master for Scotland.
>
> Four sitting Conservative MPs appear in the handbook: Tony Baldry, a junior
> minister; Sir Gerard Vaughan; Sir Peter Emery and Ian Bruce. Of these, Mr
> Bruce, who sits on a number of United Grand Lodge committees, appears to be
> the most prominent.
>
> Former MPs, all Tories, in the book are: Sir Neil Thorne, who loaned his
> Westminster home for the Prime Minister's leadership campaign headquarters
> in the summer; Sir Ian Percival, a former solicitor-general; Sir David
> Trippier; Sir John Wells and Sir Edwin Leather. One Conservative former MEP,
> Sir Peter Vanneck, is also listed.
>
> Only one former Labour politician is in the book: Niall Macdermot, who
> retired as Derby North's MP in 1970.
>
> As well as Tories and judges, businessmen also occupy senior posts "on the
> square". They include Sir John Banham, former director-general of the CBI
> and a director of National Westminster Bank and National Power.
>
> Sir Gerrard Peat, a partner in KPMG Peat Marwick, the leading accountancy
> firm, is a top Mason. He is also a past auditor to the Queen's Privy Purse
> and treasurer of the Association of Conservative Clubs.
>
>


Excellent expos� Francis!!1

I can't wait to hear Worshipful Master Simian's response to your Tory
dossier of shame! :-)



--
"Entire units of the Metropolitan Police and the Flying Squad and the
drug squad were Freemasons. They all, in the end, were sent to prison.
When you are bonded by an oath of mutual defence and loyalty, you may
well find that it is extremely difficult to squeal on your corrupt brethren"

Martin Short on BBC Newsnight 19/03/01
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