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From: Bob on 5 Jul 2010 17:30 HASM wrote: > "Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> writes: > >> Is that before or after you had to be told that FIFA considered >> deliberate fouls 'unsporting', Mr Referee? > > Just tell me exactly where in the FIFA Law Book, 2010/2011 Queen's > English edition, does the expression "deliberate fouls" even occur > (it doesn't, as far as I can see), and where does it say that those > deliberate fouls are unsporting? <yawn> if you have to be told that tactical fouls are deliberate by definition, there is little point in arguing about this. I am simply not interested.
From: HASM on 5 Jul 2010 18:06 "Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> writes: > <yawn> if you have to be told that tactical fouls are deliberate by > definition, there is little point in arguing about this. I am simply not > interested. You're not interested because you don't have a point. The laws and the words they use are very precise. FIFA deliberately uses the word deliberate in several places as a qualifier for different actions, e.g. handling, but not in any way for fouls. If you had said tactical fouls you could have a point, but you didn't. Deliberate and tactical are not the same thing. I claimed, and it's no where in the laws but in my experience, that most fouls are results of deliberate actions by players, and not incidental. You disagreed, and it's not here in rss that we can ever resolve that, and in the end it doesn't matter which one of us is more right or wrong. Now, claiming that "deliberate fouls" are "unsporting behavior" and should result in a caution and the showing of the yellow card, maybe exists in Bob's Laws of the Game, which I don't have a copy of and don't think I'll ever need read to referee a FIFA game. -- HASM
From: Bob on 5 Jul 2010 18:59 HASM wrote: > "Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> writes: > >> <yawn> if you have to be told that tactical fouls are deliberate by >> definition, there is little point in arguing about this. I am simply >> not interested. > > You're not interested because you don't have a point. The laws and It is beyond doubt despite your painful hairsplitting that a tactical foul is a *deliberate* breaking of a rule in order to gain an advantage, i.e. non-deliberate tactical fouls don't exist.
From: HASM on 5 Jul 2010 18:57 "Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> writes: > It is beyond doubt despite your painful hairsplitting that a tactical foul > is a *deliberate* breaking of a rule in order to gain an advantage, i.e. > non-deliberate tactical fouls don't exist. thanks for playing ...
From: Bob on 5 Jul 2010 23:53
HASM wrote: > "Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> writes: > >> It is beyond doubt despite your painful hairsplitting that a >> tactical foul is a *deliberate* breaking of a rule in order to gain >> an advantage, i.e. non-deliberate tactical fouls don't exist. > > thanks for playing ... Anytime |