From: Bob on
Alkamista wrote:
> On Jul 5, 10:26 am, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
>> Bruce D. Scott wrote:
>>> I just saw the repeat broadcast of the match Uruguay vs Ghana.
>>> In that critical half-minute at the end, one of the worst dives of
>>> the whole tournament, worse than the one Holland got a yellow card
>>> for, set up the free kick at about 119'30 So it went in and you all
>>> know
>>
>> The broadcast didn't show a replay or a close up of the foul that
>> led to the free-kick. In other words, you are basing your opinion on
>> worthless footage,
>
> I haven't seen this particular incident so I dont have an opinion on
> it, but I'd like to know exactly what criteria renders any given
> footage as "worthless."

Worthless to decide whether there was a foul or not. When was the last time
you could tell about a tripping foul without a close up replay?


From: Bob on
HASM wrote:
> Not that complicated,

Is that before or after you had to be told that FIFA considered deliberate
fouls 'unsporting', Mr Referee?


From: Bruce D. Scott on
Alkamista (alkamista(a)hotmail.com) wrote:
: On Jul 5, 10:26=A0am, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
: > Bruce D. Scott wrote:
: > > I just saw the repeat broadcast of the match Uruguay vs Ghana.
: > > In that critical half-minute at the end, one of the worst dives of the
: > > whole tournament, worse than the one Holland got a yellow card for,
: > > set up the free kick at about 119'30 =A0So it went in and you all know
: >
: > The broadcast didn't show a replay or a close up of the foul that led to =
: the
: > free-kick. In other words, you are basing your opinion on worthless foota=
: ge,

: I haven't seen this particular incident so I dont have an opinion on
: it, but I'd like to know exactly what criteria renders any given
: footage as "worthless."

"Bob" is a typical usenet legalist, too stupid to recognise something in
front of his face if it doesn't fit his moralising... as others have
pointed out, it is the moralising that is so mistaken, not the criticism
of the referee on any particular play.

The repeat broadcast of the match is on ESPN3 btw in case anyone wants
to watch it. ESPN2 showed it yesterday.

--
ciao,
Bruce

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From: Bob on
Bruce D. Scott wrote:
> Alkamista (alkamista(a)hotmail.com) wrote:
>> On Jul 5, 10:26=A0am, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
>>> Bruce D. Scott wrote:
>>>> I just saw the repeat broadcast of the match Uruguay vs Ghana.
>>>> In that critical half-minute at the end, one of the worst dives of
>>>> the whole tournament, worse than the one Holland got a yellow card
>>>> for, set up the free kick at about 119'30 =A0So it went in and you
>>>> all know
>>>
>>> The broadcast didn't show a replay or a close up of the foul that
>>> led to = the free-kick. In other words, you are basing your opinion
>>> on worthless foota= ge,
>
>> I haven't seen this particular incident so I dont have an opinion on
>> it, but I'd like to know exactly what criteria renders any given
>> footage as "worthless."
>
> "Bob" is a typical usenet legalist, too stupid to recognise something
> in front of his face if it doesn't fit his moralising... as others
> have pointed out, it is the moralising that is so mistaken, not the
> criticism of the referee on any particular play.

More ad-hominem attacks from the little man caught lying.

> The repeat broadcast of the match is on ESPN3 btw in case anyone wants
> to watch it. ESPN2 showed it yesterday.

Make sure you tape it and post evidence to back up your gratuitous assertion
that the ref got it wrong.


From: HASM on
"Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> writes:

> Is that before or after you had to be told that FIFA considered
> deliberate fouls 'unsporting', Mr Referee?

Just tell me exactly where in the FIFA Law Book, 2010/2011 Queen's English
edition, does the expression "deliberate fouls" even occur (it doesn't, as
far as I can see), and where does it say that those deliberate fouls are
unsporting?