From: Futbolmetrix on
On Jul 2, 11:28 pm, "Mark V." <markvande...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Do you think that Ghanaians were offside on the free kick?

I've got no idea.


From: Chagney Hunt on
On Jul 2, 11:16 pm, Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 2, 11:08 pm, Chagney Hunt <ess...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > I agree 100%
>
> > What's the law on fishing on someone else's boat?
>
> I know, that was a lame post. But I just watched the ending of the
> match on tape delay, so I'm still caught up in the emotional turmoil
> of it all. Couldn't find anything better to say.

FWIW, I didn't think it was lame. I thought it was funny.
From: d0asta on
On 3 Juli, 01:07, MH <MHnos...(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> d0asta wrote:
> > On 3 Juli, 00:12, MH <MHnos...(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> >> d0asta wrote:
> >>> On 2 Juli, 23:30, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> wrote:
> >>>> [Alessandro Riolo <alessandro.ri...(a)gmail.com>]
> >>>> [Fri, 2 Jul 2010 22:27:40 +0100]
> >>>> : This night they did what they had to do, WC are won any way you can really,
> >>>> : and as already stated, this wasn't cheating, Ghana got the chance to right
> >>>> : it, and squandered it ...
> >>>> I'm sorry, Alessandro, but to say that's not cheating is just plain
> >>>> stupid.  Of *COURSE* it is bloody cheating!  The fact that the rules
> >>>> don't adequately punish it doesn't make it any less dishonourable.
> >>> Eh, the fact that the event was punished according to the rules, means
> >>> it of *COURSE* wasn't cheating.
> >> It was cheating. That is why it was punished to the full extent of the
> >> law by the referee.
>
> > Is every player who commits a fouls a cheater?
>
> Yes. By definition, breaking the rules is cheating.

Not in my book. But aren't you glad that the cheating team of Ghana
got kicked out then? Only six more team of cheaters to get rid
of... ;-)
From: Adama on

"Mark V." <markvanderv1(a)yahoo.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
13290436-1e74-422f-ae33-3f874f646c2a(a)y21g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

>A free kick from the penalty spot isn't an automatic goal. That ball
>was on its way in and it was stopped by an illegal action. The kick
>did not ensure that Ghana was done justice.

Indeed. You can't say decreasing the chance of a goal (it was 100% a goal. I
don't know the official stats, but penalty kicks are goal about 75% of the
stats) is enough of a sanction when it is coupled with irrelevant stuff (A
red card ... in extratime's overtime ? How does that even matter ?) and
gives the opponent's momentum.

I think that after the Lex Ballack (you don't miss the final if you take
your second yellow in the semis), FIFA will come up with a Lex Ghana. (goal
saved by a blatant handball = goal). That would be the equivalent of Rugby's
penalty try. (for those who don't follow rugby union, when a try was
inevitable had the defender not fouled, the try is given).


Now, I don't blame Suarez. I exploited the rules. Good for him and Uruguay.
It doesn't mean the rules aren't flawed.


From: William Clark on
In article <4c2eea89$0$2976$ba4acef3(a)reader.news.orange.fr>,
"Adama" <spam(a)invalid.com> wrote:

> "Mark V." <markvanderv1(a)yahoo.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
> 13290436-1e74-422f-ae33-3f874f646c2a(a)y21g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>
> >A free kick from the penalty spot isn't an automatic goal. That ball
> >was on its way in and it was stopped by an illegal action. The kick
> >did not ensure that Ghana was done justice.
>
> Indeed. You can't say decreasing the chance of a goal (it was 100% a goal. I
> don't know the official stats, but penalty kicks are goal about 75% of the
> stats) is enough of a sanction when it is coupled with irrelevant stuff (A
> red card ... in extratime's overtime ? How does that even matter ?) and
> gives the opponent's momentum.
>
> I think that after the Lex Ballack (you don't miss the final if you take
> your second yellow in the semis), FIFA will come up with a Lex Ghana. (goal
> saved by a blatant handball = goal). That would be the equivalent of Rugby's
> penalty try. (for those who don't follow rugby union, when a try was
> inevitable had the defender not fouled, the try is given).
>
>
> Now, I don't blame Suarez. I exploited the rules. Good for him and Uruguay.
> It doesn't mean the rules aren't flawed.

Absolutely - this rule in soccer is an absolute disgrace. If a player
illegally prevents the ball from going into the goal, then the goal
should stand. Period. As you say, it is what rugby does, and it is the
right thing to do.