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From: Manx Gunner on 27 Jun 2010 07:09
[Diablos Rojos <diablos_r0j0s(a)yahoo.com>]
[Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:53:15 +0100]

: > 2. No English fan should ever talk about anyone else's unrealistic
: > expectations. Ever.

: what are our unrealistic expectations?.... we keep getting this thrown at us
: but I've not really seen any "unrealistic expectations".

There seems to be a general thought amongst the English media and fans
that if they simply play up to their potential, England will win the
World Cup. Having watched every team in the World Cup multiple times by
now, I can safely say that such notions are hopeful but unrealistic.
There are teams in this tournament that will absolutely hammer England
if both teams play to their full strengths.

It is a seductive notion to believe that because many of the England
squad perform quite well in the Premier League that they are naturally
world-class players, but such an argument doesn't hold water. If the
team really was loaded with such talent, then surely some of it would
have been tempted away from the Premier League to the various big money
clubs around Europe. That's not definitive proof that none of them are
good enough, mind you, but it is an interesting point. In any case, any
player of above average talent is going to look great against the bottom
10 of the English Premier League year-on-year. That doesn't make such
players world-class, it makes them top of the English class.


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"Look at the way teams play against Arsenal. They don't believe they
can win. They don't believe." -- Jose Mourinho
From: JAB on 27 Jun 2010 07:20
On 27/06/2010 12:09 PM, Manx Gunner wrote:
> There seems to be a general thought amongst the English media and fans
> that if they simply play up to their potential, England will win the
> World Cup.

Which would be a great point to make if it happened to be true. On the
grounds that it's not ... what is you point?
From: Manx Gunner on 27 Jun 2010 07:39
[JAB <nochance(a)nohope.com>]
[Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:20:50 +0100]

: On 27/06/2010 12:09 PM, Manx Gunner wrote:
: > There seems to be a general thought amongst the English media and fans
: > that if they simply play up to their potential, England will win the
: > World Cup.
:
: Which would be a great point to make if it happened to be true. On the
: grounds that it's not ... what is you point?

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I don't believe that
you're paying attention.

--
"Look at the way teams play against Arsenal. They don't believe they
can win. They don't believe." -- Jose Mourinho
From: JAB on 27 Jun 2010 08:20
On 27/06/2010 12:39 PM, Manx Gunner wrote:
> [JAB<nochance(a)nohope.com>]
> [Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:20:50 +0100]
>
> : On 27/06/2010 12:09 PM, Manx Gunner wrote:
> :> There seems to be a general thought amongst the English media and fans
> :> that if they simply play up to their potential, England will win the
> :> World Cup.
> :
> : Which would be a great point to make if it happened to be true. On the
> : grounds that it's not ... what is you point?
>
> You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I don't believe that
> you're paying attention.
>

So presumable you're be able to show me lot's of posts claiming that
England are going to win it then and also all these media reports?
You're right that someone isn't paying attention but I think you're find
the culprit is nearer to home ...
From: Manx Gunner on 27 Jun 2010 08:32
[JAB <nochance(a)nohope.com>]
[Sun, 27 Jun 2010 13:20:09 +0100]

: > : Which would be a great point to make if it happened to be true. On the
: > : grounds that it's not ... what is you point?
: >
: > You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I don't believe that
: > you're paying attention.
: >
:
: So presumable you're be able to show me lot's of posts claiming that
: England are going to win it then and also all these media reports?
: You're right that someone isn't paying attention but I think you're find
: the culprit is nearer to home ...

Turn on your television, JAB.

Wait, let me translate for you:

Tern on you're telly, JAB!1!!1

--
"Look at the way teams play against Arsenal. They don't believe they
can win. They don't believe." -- Jose Mourinho
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