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From: Yo Merito on 26 Jun 2010 16:20 Cl�ment <lcmello.listas(a)terra.com.br> writes: > "anders t" escreveu na mensagem > news:neec265gpss7lbf0akr0bqlua59ic643lt(a)4ax.com... >> Quoting Mart van de Wege in rec.sport.soccer: >>> >>>Another pet peeve of mine: the creeping wall: >>> >>>- Ref sets the wall at 10 yards, often having to use utmost persuasion >>> to do so. >>> >>>- As soon as the ref walks off, the wall starts creeping back forward. >>> >>>Very few refs have the stones to halt the taking of the free kick and do >>>what they have to do: caution the outermost player in the wall. >> >> Isn't some of the fed's refs using some spray marker (that lasts >> only a few >> minutes) for the accepted distance? Then it becomes real easy. > > > In Brazil it has been used for years. It is very effective. Same in Mexico, but only for about a year
From: Bruce D. Scott on 27 Jun 2010 00:06 Manx Gunner (goal(a)4thegunners!com) wrote: : When a team like Chelsea surrounds the referee, what I'd like to see is : him start waving his card around issuing cautions until the idiots get : the point and back off. FIFA would never support that, though. I'm very interested to see to what extent this Chelsea problem diminishes next season after Ballack has left for Leverkusen... -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 27 Jun 2010 03:06 HASM <netnews(a)invalid.com> writes: > Deeppe <tutall(a)hotmail.com> writes: > >> I'm now assured that you both are referees, > > Both Evan (an ex-co-worker) We are? (Frantically tries to match names to initials.) > and I, are/were referees, yes. After watching the World Cup games, I'm not sure I'm qualified anymore. There were a lot of fouls (and especially cards) that I didn't see any reason for. (And a bunch I thought should have been called that weren't, of course.) >> out of a long explanation you both jump on where I mispoke. ;-) > > The rest of your post was fine, but one does need to make sure these > misspoken statements don't propagate too far, or we end up with the > players and/or the parents on the sideline, quoting all kinds of things > they heard on TV or read on rss :-) > > "Players can't play on the ground" is my favorite one in youth > games. Well, it depends on the level. Young enough, and it's pretty much dangerous play no matter what. Older, and I'd call it if somebody broke stride to avoid stepping on you. (And if you slide tackle and wind up in front of the guy who had the ball and he steps on you, it's at best ODF[1] if not dangerous play against the tackler.) > "But I got the ball first" the one in adult games. "They have to > ask for 10 yards first", when I brought the YC out. I like "You have to give us time to set up our wall." Uh, no. No, I don't if they want a quick kick. [1] Own Damn Fault. -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |Your claim might have more 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |credibility if you hadn't mispelled Palo Alto, CA 94304 |"inteligent" kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/
From: Manx Gunner on 27 Jun 2010 07:03 [Bruce D. Scott <bds(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de>] [Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:06:50 +0000 (UTC)] : Manx Gunner (goal(a)4thegunners!com) wrote: : : : When a team like Chelsea surrounds the referee, what I'd like to see is : : him start waving his card around issuing cautions until the idiots get : : the point and back off. FIFA would never support that, though. : : I'm very interested to see to what extent this Chelsea problem : diminishes next season after Ballack has left for Leverkusen... To be fair, they're far from the only team who engages in such behavior. They do seem to do it an awful lot, though. -- "Look at the way teams play against Arsenal. They don't believe they can win. They don't believe." -- Jose Mourinho
From: Bruce D. Scott on 27 Jun 2010 10:11
Manx Gunner (goal(a)4thegunners!.com) wrote: : [Bruce D. Scott <bds(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de>] : [Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:06:50 +0000 (UTC)] : : Manx Gunner (goal(a)4thegunners!com) wrote: : : : : : When a team like Chelsea surrounds the referee, what I'd like to see is : : : him start waving his card around issuing cautions until the idiots get : : : the point and back off. FIFA would never support that, though. : : : : I'm very interested to see to what extent this Chelsea problem : : diminishes next season after Ballack has left for Leverkusen... : To be fair, they're far from the only team who engages in such behavior. : They do seem to do it an awful lot, though. My point is that Ballack (as Matthias Sammer before him) is exceptionally bad. He was by far the worst in the Bundesliga when he was here. -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/ |