From: El Kot on 25 Jun 2010 21:14
> one does need to make sure these
> misspoken statements don't propagate too far, or we end up with the
> players and/or the parents on the sideline, quoting all kinds of things
> they heard on TV or read on rss :-)
> "Players can't play on the ground" is my favorite one in youth games.
Would you please explain the context? What can this possibly be about?
> I got the ball first" the one in adult games.
This one needs no explanation.
> "They have to ask for 10
> yards first", when I brought the YC out.
Who "has to ask" - the other team?
No, no, you can't e-mail me with the nono.
From: HASM on 26 Jun 2010 13:06
El Kot <nono.black.elko(a)gmail.com> writes:
> HASM wrote:
>> "Players can't play on the ground" is my favorite one in youth games.
> Would you please explain the context? What can this possibly be about?
Sure. In youth games players are always tripping and falling on top of one
another. Players on the ground still keep swinging their legs and creating
dangerous situations, for that age group, so, at that level, it is almost
immediate to whistle and call an indirect free kick against the player on
the ground, on safety concerns. From the clueless side lines this creates
the impression that the player was penalized for playing "on the ground"
and it perpetuates up the youth soccer age groups. It's quite funny how it
is very prevalent all over the San Francisco Bay Area.
>> "But I got the ball first" the one in adult games.
> This one needs no explanation.
Tell that to all the adult amateur players around here, and we're talking
people from all over the world...
>> "They have to ask for 10 yards first", when I brought the YC out.
> Who "has to ask" - the other team?
Yes, the defense is convinced that they can stand 1 yard from the ball
until the other team asks for 10.
From: Mart van de Wege on 26 Jun 2010 13:26
HASM <netnews(a)invalid.com> writes:
> "They have to ask for 10 yards first", when I brought the YC out.
Another pet peeve of mine: the creeping wall:
- Ref sets the wall at 10 yards, often having to use utmost persuasion
to do so.
- As soon as the ref walks off, the wall starts creeping back forward.
Very few refs have the stones to halt the taking of the free kick and do
what they have to do: caution the outermost player in the wall.
"We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes."
--- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.
From: Clément on 26 Jun 2010 13:44
"anders t" escreveu na mensagem
> Quoting Mart van de Wege in rec.sport.soccer:
>>Another pet peeve of mine: the creeping wall:
>>- Ref sets the wall at 10 yards, often having to use utmost persuasion
>> to do so.
>>- As soon as the ref walks off, the wall starts creeping back forward.
>>Very few refs have the stones to halt the taking of the free kick and do
>>what they have to do: caution the outermost player in the wall.
> Isn't some of the fed's refs using some spray marker (that lasts only a
> minutes) for the accepted distance? Then it becomes real easy.
In Brazil it has been used for years. It is very effective.
From: HASM on 26 Jun 2010 13:49
Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> writes:
> There are lots of things like that, though, that FIFA and the officials
> could be much harder on and put a stop to a lot of bullshit, but they
> just refuse...
Actually that was one of the things we were supposed to "enforce" a few
years back, but then the guys in the EPL don't do it, and when we do it in
the local fields it only causes problems.
I'd like to see a rule similar to rugby (I'll email Brian H one of these
days). When the wall encroaches, instead of or in addition of cautioning
people, the wall would move back 5 yards per infraction. With a second
kick with the wall at 15 then 20, things would stop rather quickly.