USA joins the 25 countries who have won 7 matches at world cups!
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From: Brian Lawrence on 11 Jul 2010 03:43 "Gerrit" <gthart(a)sad.for.you> wrote in message news:i1bmc8$du$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > > "Raja, The Great" <zepfloyes(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:166abe0b-7916-4a07-9584-e82a230c8990(a)k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 10, 8:44 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Glorious achievement, only few countries have done >>> it.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_team_appearances_in_the_FIFA_Wo... >>> >>> Team Pld W D L GF GA Pts >>> Brazil 97 67 15 15 210 88 216 >>> Germany 99 60 19 20 206 117 199 >>> Italy 80 44 21 15 126 74 153 >>> Argentina 70 37 13 20 123 80 124 >>> England 59 26 19 14 77 52 97 >>> Spain 55 27 12 16 87 59 93 >>> France 54 25 11 18 96 68 86 >>> Holland 42 22 10 10 71 43 76 >>> Uruguay 47 18 12 17 76 65 66 >>> Sweden 46 16 13 17 74 69 61 >>> Serbia 43 17 8 18 64 59 59 >>> Russia 37 17 6 14 64 44 57 >>> Poland 31 15 5 11 44 40 50 >>> Mexico 49 12 13 24 52 89 49 >>> Hungary 32 15 3 14 87 57 48 >>> Czech 33 12 5 16 47 49 41 >>> Austria 29 12 4 13 43 47 40 >>> Portugal 23 12 3 8 39 22 39 >>> Belgium 36 10 9 17 46 63 39 >>> Chile 29 9 6 14 34 45 33 >>> Swiss 29 9 6 14 38 52 33 >>> Paraguay 27 7 10 10 30 38 31 >>> Romania 21 8 5 8 30 32 29 >>> Denmark 16 8 2 6 27 24 26 >>> USA 29 7 5 17 32 56 26 >>> >>> Going by history, Spain deserves it slightly more than Holland. >> >> Of these teams 25 teams we didn't have Sweden, Russia, Poland, >> Hungary, Czech, Austia, Belgium and Romania in World Cup 2010. Would >> those nations have made WC 2010 better? >> > > I think there is a problem with this list. It shows Czech as winning 12 matches. > The Czech Republic wasn't formed till 1 January 1993. > Since then we have had 5 World Cups. The Czech Republic has only attended one of them (2006) > and won one game. > The other half of the former Czechoslovakia (Slovakia) was at this year's WC and won one > game. > So the list contains the results of (the former) Czechoslovakia. Whether the list includes > the wins by the Czech Republic and Slovakia I didn't check out but the question at the end > (at least) should not have included Czech. Same for Serbia - 37 of their 43 matches (1930-98) were played as Yugoslavia. Doesn't include matches played by Slovenia (6) or Croatia (13). The 33 matches listed for "Czech" includes 30 as Czechoslovakia and 3 as Czech Republic, but not the 4 played by Slovakia.
From: ixion martin - GdBx on 11 Jul 2010 07:17 Gerrit a utilis� son clavier pour �crire : > "Raja, The Great" <zepfloyes(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:166abe0b-7916-4a07-9584-e82a230c8990(a)k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 10, 8:44 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Glorious achievement, only few countries have done >>> it.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_team_appearances_in_the_FIFA_Wo... >>> >>> Team Pld W D L GF GA >>> Pts >>> Brazil 97 67 15 15 210 88 >>> 216 >>> Germany 99 60 19 20 206 117 >>> 199 >>> Italy 80 44 21 15 126 74 >>> 153 >>> Argentina 70 37 13 20 123 80 >>> 124 >>> England 59 26 19 14 77 52 >>> 97 >>> Spain 55 27 12 16 87 59 93 >>> France 54 25 11 18 96 68 86 >>> Holland 42 22 10 10 71 43 >>> 76 >>> Uruguay 47 18 12 17 76 65 >>> 66 >>> Sweden 46 16 13 17 74 69 61 >>> Serbia 43 17 8 18 64 59 >>> 59 >>> Russia 37 17 6 14 64 44 >>> 57 >>> Poland 31 15 5 11 44 40 50 >>> Mexico 49 12 13 24 52 89 49 >>> Hungary 32 15 3 14 87 57 >>> 48 >>> Czech 33 12 5 16 47 49 41 >>> Austria 29 12 4 13 43 47 >>> 40 >>> Portugal 23 12 3 8 39 22 >>> 39 >>> Belgium 36 10 9 17 46 63 >>> 39 >>> Chile 29 9 6 14 34 45 33 >>> Swiss 29 9 6 14 38 52 33 >>> Paraguay 27 7 10 10 30 38 >>> 31 >>> Romania 21 8 5 8 30 32 >>> 29 >>> Denmark 16 8 2 6 27 24 >>> 26 >>> USA 29 7 5 17 32 56 26 >>> >>> Going by history, Spain deserves it slightly more than >>> Holland. >> >> Of these teams 25 teams we didn't have Sweden, Russia, >> Poland, >> Hungary, Czech, Austia, Belgium and Romania in World Cup >> 2010. Would >> those nations have made WC 2010 better? >> > > I think there is a problem with this list. It shows Czech as > winning 12 matches. > The Czech Republic wasn't formed till 1 January 1993. > Since then we have had 5 World Cups. The Czech Republic has > only attended one of them (2006) and won one game. > The other half of the former Czechoslovakia (Slovakia) was at > this year's WC and won one game. > So the list contains the results of (the former) > Czechoslovakia. Whether the list includes the wins by the > Czech Republic and Slovakia I didn't check out but the > question at the end (at least) should not have included > Czech. Correct me if I make a mistake, but I think that previouis Chzechoslovakia team was made by Chezch player with two or three exceptions... -- Ixion Contre une �quipe �trang�re, quand on dit diplomatiquement que l'arbitre n'est pas dans un bon soir, c'est toujours le club fran�ais qui morfle.
From: Raja, The Great on 11 Jul 2010 10:30 On Jul 10, 9:31 pm, Javier González Nicolini <jagon...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 10, 10:24 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 10, 8:44 pm, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Glorious achievement, only few countries have done it.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_team_appearances_in_the_FIFA_Wo... > > > > Team Pld W D L GF GA Pts > > > Brazil 97 67 15 15 210 88 216 > > > Germany 99 60 19 20 206 117 199 > > > Italy 80 44 21 15 126 74 153 > > > Argentina 70 37 13 20 123 80 124 > > > England 59 26 19 14 77 52 97 > > > Spain 55 27 12 16 87 59 93 > > > France 54 25 11 18 96 68 86 > > > Holland 42 22 10 10 71 43 76 > > > Uruguay 47 18 12 17 76 65 66 > > > Sweden 46 16 13 17 74 69 61 > > > Serbia 43 17 8 18 64 59 59 > > > Russia 37 17 6 14 64 44 57 > > > Poland 31 15 5 11 44 40 50 > > > Mexico 49 12 13 24 52 89 49 > > > Hungary 32 15 3 14 87 57 48 > > > Czech 33 12 5 16 47 49 41 > > > Austria 29 12 4 13 43 47 40 > > > Portugal 23 12 3 8 39 22 39 > > > Belgium 36 10 9 17 46 63 39 > > > Chile 29 9 6 14 34 45 33 > > > Swiss 29 9 6 14 38 52 33 > > > Paraguay 27 7 10 10 30 38 31 > > > Romania 21 8 5 8 30 32 29 > > > Denmark 16 8 2 6 27 24 26 > > > USA 29 7 5 17 32 56 26 > > > > Going by history, Spain deserves it slightly more than Holland. > > > Of these teams 25 teams we didn't have Sweden, Russia, Poland, > > Hungary, Czech, Austia, Belgium and Romania in World Cup 2010. Would > > those nations have made WC 2010 better? > > Anybody would have been better than North Korea. Or Honduras. North Korea was pretty good except for that Portugal match. Honduras didn't concede too many goals.
From: Clément on 11 Jul 2010 11:55 "ixion martin - GdBx" escreveu: > Gerrit a utilis� son clavier pour �crire : >> >> I think there is a problem with this list. It shows Czech as winning 12 >> matches. >> The Czech Republic wasn't formed till 1 January 1993. >> Since then we have had 5 World Cups. The Czech Republic has only attended >> one of them (2006) and won one game. >> The other half of the former Czechoslovakia (Slovakia) was at this year's >> WC and won one game. >> So the list contains the results of (the former) Czechoslovakia. Whether >> the list includes the wins by the Czech Republic and Slovakia I didn't >> check out but the question at the end (at least) should not have included >> Czech. > > Correct me if I make a mistake, but I think that previouis Chzechoslovakia > team was made by Chezch player with two or three exceptions... Perhaps, but this is not what this is about. The World Cup is played by national football associations, not by countries. Serbia's and the Czech Republic's FAs are considered successors of the Yugoslavia's and Czechoslovakia's FAs, respectively. Therefore, they inherit the former FAs' records. What surprised me in this Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_team_appearances_in_the_FIFA_World_Cup) was to learn that the Slovakian FA is also considered a successor to Czechoslovakia's, which does not make sense, except as a political arrangement. Abra�o, Luiz Mello
From: Clément on 11 Jul 2010 12:08
"Cl�ment" escreveu na mensagem: > > Serbia's and the Czech Republic's FAs are considered successors of the > Yugoslavia's and Czechoslovakia's FAs, respectively. Therefore, they > inherit the former FAs' records. > > What surprised me in this Wikipedia page > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_team_appearances_in_the_FIFA_World_Cup) > was to learn that the Slovakian FA is also considered a successor to > Czechoslovakia's, which does not make sense, except as a political > arrangement. FIFA.com seems to agree with me, kinda. The Czech Republic Association page says it was founded in 1901, and is affiliated to FIFA since 1907. Clearly, they are successors to whichever was the original FIFA member FA back in the day. The Slovakia Association page says it was founded in 1993. However, it's also affiliated to FIFA since 1907, which means either that they managed to time travel to become a member the same year the Czechs did, or that FIFA just doesn't care a lot about records and decided to please both sides. Abra�o, Luiz Mello |