Time for FIFA to do something about this.
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From: The Scrutineer on 14 May 2010 08:26 > I think I agree. Regarding national teams, I don't see a problem with > a team being made up of 11 players of the same nationality regardless > of whether they were actually born in that country or just had 1 of > their parents from there but have never lived there themselves. > The problem is with these players that get dual nationality to get > round the limits on non-EU players at clubs. Once a player has made > his mind up that he's Brazilian, he shouldn't be allowed to choose to > be regarded as Italian just so that his club can get another Brazilian > player. Very valid argument you make, and I agree, though not much has been done about it, and probably wont be!!!
From: Abubakr on 14 May 2010 08:40 On May 14, 10:09 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: > Abubakr wrote: > > Regulations need to come in to stop established professionals from > > changing nationalities. One way to do this would be to have any player > > registering a professional contract nominate his/her nationality and > > that nationality stays with the player for life and cannot be changed. > > This still allows juniors to choose between countries that they would > > like to represent in international football but it stops third rate > > (and at time even first and second rate) Brazilians and the odd > > Argentine from playing for the likes of Croatia, Portugal, Germany, > > Italy etc... > > does any team have multiple cases of people jumping country to play at the > national level or is it just the odd example? Portugal have a number of 'naturalised' Brazilians but most of the other offenders have just the odd player... for now!!! But if it isn't curtailed it will increase. It makes a mockery of international representative football. If NTs are made up of players for hire then might as well get rid of international football altogether and just have private club competitions where players for hire has always been the paradigm. There has to be a distinction between the two otherwise it's meaningless.
From: Bruce D. Scott on 14 May 2010 09:45 The Scrutineer (vlade4(a)bigpond.com) wrote: : You both get fired up over little issues, the rule wont change unless : Abubakr is next in line for FIFA presidency, that said, it's not necessarily : right either, it's a good idea, but grey at best, it is hard to get a clear : black and white solution for this subject!!! Gee, even Germany has its Brasilian now... -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Bruce D. Scott on 14 May 2010 09:52 Bob (Bob(a)Bob.com) wrote: : Abubakr wrote: : > Regulations need to come in to stop established professionals from : > changing nationalities. One way to do this would be to have any player : > registering a professional contract nominate his/her nationality and : > that nationality stays with the player for life and cannot be changed. : > This still allows juniors to choose between countries that they would : > like to represent in international football but it stops third rate : > (and at time even first and second rate) Brazilians and the odd : > Argentine from playing for the likes of Croatia, Portugal, Germany, : > Italy etc... : does any team have multiple cases of people jumping country to play at the : national level or is it just the odd example? Rossi, Subotic, and Ibisevic are just three of the guys who spent most of their development in the US but play for a "blood-tie" country. In the other direction, we have the sorry tale of David Regis who got into the US side by marrying an American and then USSF hiring her as a travel agent to satisfy the requirement for citizenship by the slimmest of margins :-) Like Jermaine Jones in the end he wasn't good enough. There's also plenty of movement in both directions like that in Germany. Owen Hargreaves is a good example: Canada, Wales, England or (somehow) even Germany. But his dad is English so he played or England without ever having lived there. Then there's Tony Cascarino who admitted after retirement the long lost grandmother who made him Irish was just made up *ggg* -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: Chagney Hunt on 14 May 2010 10:01
On May 14, 9:45 am, b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote: > The Scrutineer (vla...(a)bigpond.com) wrote: > > : You both get fired up over little issues, the rule wont change unless > : Abubakr is next in line for FIFA presidency, that said, it's not necessarily > : right either, it's a good idea, but grey at best, it is hard to get a clear > : black and white solution for this subject!!! > > Gee, even Germany has its Brasilian now... If you think about it, it's *more* surprising that first world countries like Germany didn't have the first dip of Brazilians (ODL!) |