From: milivella on
Joachim Parsch:

> Here's some more: obviously experience is underrated when
> considering the chances to reach a WC final. The last WC final,
> where there was no player on the field who had that special
> experience before was 1994. Before that, we have to go back
> to 1966 to find a final with 22 newcomers. Also in that
> category: the finals of 30, 50, 54, 58, all in all just
> 6 of the 18 finals (in 34, some Italians had in 1930 played
> for Argentina, quite possibly the source of the currentFIFA rule,
> that you have to choose once, for which country you want to
> play).

Very nice spotting!

> > It would be nice to check if you pick x teams (they are now 198, but
> > of course a lot less in the first editions... let's say 100?) and you
> > pick 2 out of them 18 times, what the results are. I.e. how much
> > inequal the WC is? [Daniele, have I to call your name loud or are you
> > able to read between the lines? ;) ]
>
> You mean the probability, that only once there were two newcomers,
> given a random draw?

Yep.

> It's low :-)

Indeed.

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milivella
From: milivella on
MH:

> milivella wrote:
>
> > Indeed refreshing the list of first time finalists is quite
> > interesting:
>
> > 1930: 2 = Uruguay, Argentina
> > 1934: 2 = Italy, Czechoslovakia
> > 1938: 1 = Hungary
> > 1950: 1 = Brazil
>
> Not true, there WAS no final in 1950, it was a group stage.  It was only
> a coincidence that the top two teams met in the final round.

You're right, sorry. I change my wording: "the list of the teams that
were on one of the two top spots for the first time".

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milivella
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