The Wunderteams of football history and why they never won a title in their prime
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From: FF on 28 Nov 2009 12:49 ken.overton(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Nov 27, 2:35 pm, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > > Barca could only stop them by doing > > many penalty offenses, which were systematically overlooked by Ovrebo. > > I feel so bad for Chelsea; they were such a clean, non-fouling, > positive, attack-oriented side. Who never dives and always smell like > freshly-plucked roses. Did I mention how handsome they are? It was a > travesty what happened to them, and a crime against innocent children > everywhere. Jesus positively wept. This must be the Adam of all strawmen. (OK, it's ironic, I get it, but still.)
From: FF on 28 Nov 2009 13:03 ken.overton(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Nov 27, 2:35 pm, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > > Barca could only stop them by doing > > many penalty offenses, which were systematically overlooked by Ovrebo. > > I feel so bad for Chelsea; they were such a clean, non-fouling, > positive, attack-oriented side. They were defense-oriented but they didn't park the bus. They countered whenever they had the chance, which was a lot of times. > Who never dives They did their share of garbage but on the whole they were the ones who were screwed.
From: Enzo on 28 Nov 2009 20:54 On Nov 28, 2:14 pm, "ken.over...(a)gmail.com" <ken.over...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 27, 2:35 pm, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > > > Barca could only stop them by doing > > many penalty offenses, which were systematically overlooked by Ovrebo. > > I feel so bad for Chelsea; they were such a clean, non-fouling, > positive, attack-oriented side. Who never dives and always smell like > freshly-plucked roses. Did I mention how handsome they are? It was a > travesty what happened to them, and a crime against innocent children > everywhere. Jesus positively wept. Most of the fouling was done by Yaya Toure, if I recall correctly. Barcelona were outplayed and outclassed.
From: Mark on 29 Nov 2009 03:43 On Nov 22, 12:48 pm, Quincy <ab...(a)email.de> wrote: > Wunderteam 1: Austria 1931-1933: > > The world cup 1934 came a little bit late for them. Two years before > nobody could have stopped them, but in 1934 they were still the best, > but lost the Semifinals against Italy because the refery was > completely on Italy's side because of the the pressure of the Italian > regime. > WC1934 SF: Austria - Italy 0:1 > > Wunderteam 2: Hungary 1952-1956: > > This one was the biggest upset in football history as Hungary was > completely on their prime in 1954. They should beat the German team in > the group stages 8-3, won in QF against Brazil 4-2 and in the SF > against defending champion Uruguay 4-2. > That was happenend in the final though is still unexplicable for most > experts. Many bad things came together. Puskas played even obviously > not 100% fit, the heavy rain, the inredible team spirit of the Germans > and a lot of bad luck. > WC1954 F: Hungary - Germany 2:3 > > Wunderteam 3: Holland 1973-1974: > > 1974 was A similar situation to 1954: Holland the best team of the > world and taking out all big names for the eventual World Champion, > Germany. The only difference now was that Germany was not the big > underdog here as they had themselves their prime just 2 years before > and so the Dutch faced another very strong team in the finals. Bad > luck. > WC1974 F: Holland - Germany 1:2 > > Wunderteam 4: Portugal 1999-2000: > The way the young Portugals around Figo became U21 World champions > some years before was so amazing that is wasn't that big surprise that > they easily sent home Germany and England in the group stages of 2000. > In the SF against World Champion France it showed that they were sill > too young to handle such a clever and routined defensive team as > France at this point. > EC2000 SF: Portugal - France 1:2 n.V. > > Wunderteam 5: Czechia 2004: > 5 years are gone since there match against Holland in EC2004, where > the Czechs beat them 3-2. People are still talking about the finest > and fastest match of all time with plenty of goal chance on both > sides. But similary to the Portugals 4 years before they ran against a > super defensive team in the Semifinals (Greece) and that was the end, > even though they were clearly the better team. > EC2004 SF: Czechia - Greece 0:1 n.V. Talking of very good teams of the past, how do yous rate Peru 1970-78? World Cup quarter-finalists 1970, Champions of South America 1975 (beating Brazil away from home (who had beaten Argentina away) on their way to the title), World Cup quarter-finalists 1978; and had Teofilo Cubillas playing for them.
From: Abubakr on 29 Nov 2009 04:50
On 29 Nov, 05:03, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > ken.over...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > On Nov 27, 2:35 pm, FF <FAIRFOOTBALL....(a)domainsbyproxy.com> wrote: > > > Barca could only stop them by doing > > > many penalty offenses, which were systematically overlooked by Ovrebo.. > > > I feel so bad for Chelsea; they were such a clean, non-fouling, > > positive, attack-oriented side. > > They were defense-oriented but they didn't park the bus. They > countered whenever they had the chance, which was a lot of times. So you missed the first leg did you? Barcelona last year were a team that played to control and WIN every game, no matter the opposition or venue. Chelsea admitted their own inferiority to Barcelona with their park the bus in own half and pass back to keeper to hoof out policy, adding a nice dose of that other quality of great teams, persistent tactical fouling to break up the play to the proceedings. When the captain and 'playmaker' of Germany and a host of other stalwarts of the world game are reduced to such a station it is a matter definition that they ain't playing for the best team out there. |