The Wunderteams of football history and why they never won a title in their prime
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From: Mark on 25 Nov 2009 03:22 On Nov 24, 11:00 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 24 Nov, 20:19, Mark <Pammieshe...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 11:20 pm, "ken.over...(a)gmail.com" <ken.over...(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > On Nov 22, 12:11 pm, Static Void <s...(a)ticvoid.com> wrote: > > > > > Abubakr wrote: > > > > > You forgot Brazil in 82, one of the last truly great teams to play in > > > > > the WC. > > > > > They were a hell lotta fun to watch, the total sum was even greater than > > > > the sum of its parts as great as they were individually - Zico, Falcao, > > > > Socrates, Cerezzo. > > > > I was thinking of the 82 team as well, but what about Brazil in '50? > > > They were the hosts, they pasted everybody's ears back until the final > > > when Uruguay sucker-punched them in the Maracanazo. > > > Brazil did win a title in that era. Brazil won the Copa America in > > 1949. > > Come on, man, get with the program. Only the World Cup counts.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - It says a title, not necessarily the World Cup.
From: Abubakr on 25 Nov 2009 05:13 On 25 Nov, 19:22, Mark <Pammieshe...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On Nov 24, 11:00 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 24 Nov, 20:19, Mark <Pammieshe...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > On Nov 22, 11:20 pm, "ken.over...(a)gmail.com" <ken.over...(a)gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > On Nov 22, 12:11 pm, Static Void <s...(a)ticvoid.com> wrote: > > > > > > Abubakr wrote: > > > > > > You forgot Brazil in 82, one of the last truly great teams to play in > > > > > > the WC. > > > > > > They were a hell lotta fun to watch, the total sum was even greater than > > > > > the sum of its parts as great as they were individually - Zico, Falcao, > > > > > Socrates, Cerezzo. > > > > > I was thinking of the 82 team as well, but what about Brazil in '50? > > > > They were the hosts, they pasted everybody's ears back until the final > > > > when Uruguay sucker-punched them in the Maracanazo. > > > > Brazil did win a title in that era. Brazil won the Copa America in > > > 1949. > > > Come on, man, get with the program. Only the World Cup counts.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > It says a title, not necessarily the World Cup. Yes, I know.
From: Enzo on 25 Nov 2009 10:23 On Nov 25, 1:51 am, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 24, 2:23 pm, Enzo <s_debgu...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Ariel Ortega ( without doubt the best "next Maradona" in history ) > > If you are talking only in an Argentine shirt, then possibly. If club > football is taken into account as well then it has to be Messi, even > at this young age. Ortega did nothing of note in Europe. Messi has won > 3 Ligas, the UCL, UEFA Club Footballer of the Year, has played on > Europe's best team, and has justifiably been in contention for best > player in the world. Messi is a phenomenon of advertising. It is good in a way he is going to South Africa, where he could be marked by the msm as the fraud that I know he is. Chelsea is Europe's best team. Also was, last season. And I said so, before it was fashionable to say so. Though I was probably wrong on Arsenal. Tevéz has many trophies too, but he only invites opprobrium. Is it because he has a scar?
From: FF on 25 Nov 2009 11:07 Enzo wrote: > On Nov 25, 1:51 am, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > On Nov 24, 2:23 pm, Enzo <s_debgu...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Ariel Ortega ( without doubt the best "next Maradona" in history ) > > > > If you are talking only in an Argentine shirt, then possibly. If club > > football is taken into account as well then it has to be Messi, even > > at this young age. Ortega did nothing of note in Europe. Messi has won > > 3 Ligas, the UCL, UEFA Club Footballer of the Year, has played on > > Europe's best team, and has justifiably been in contention for best > > player in the world. > > Messi is a phenomenon of advertising. It is good in a way he is > going to South Africa, where he could be marked by the msm > as the fraud that I know he is. > > Chelsea is Europe's best team. Also was, last season. And I said > so, before it was fashionable to say so. Me too. On FairFootball, no less. :-) > Tevéz has many trophies too, but he only invites opprobrium. > Is it because he has a scar? Come on. You can't compare the two. You're being very unfair to Messi. I'd say you'll be proven wrong with time but it's a no-brainer.
From: Abubakr on 25 Nov 2009 17:06
On 26 Nov, 02:23, Enzo <s_debgu...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Chelsea is Europe's best team. Also was, last season. And I said > so, before it was fashionable to say so. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. |