The Wunderteams of football history and why they never won a title in their prime
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From: Quincy on 24 Nov 2009 14:28 On 24 Nov., 14:06, Benny <Be...(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote: > > Subject : The Wunderteams of football history and why they never won > a title in their prime > > From : malte.zan...(a)madcynic.com > > > "Still Argentina ***are*** one of the few teams ..." > > "No matter, they ***were*** still the best side ..." > > > > My point was made in response to the first of the above. > > Besides, they were emphatically not the best side in 2006. > > They were outplayed by Mexico. > > Italy, Germany and France were the best sides. Argentina were also > outplayed by the Ivory Coast. Argentina did what they usually do. Arrive > at the tournament over hyped, shot their load early and crashed and > burned just as they did in 1994, 1998 and 2002. Their reputation as one > of the best sides in the World and perennial World Cup contenders is > totally without merit. Have you seen their defence? They haven't had a > decent defence since 1998, let alone one good enough to win a World Cup. Argentina was good enough to make sure, Germany won't win the World Cup, but cowardly taking out Frings, who was the most important player of the German team in 2006.
From: Enzo on 24 Nov 2009 15:23 On Nov 24, 1:06 pm, Benny <Be...(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote: > > Subject : The Wunderteams of football history and why they never won > a title in their prime > > From : malte.zan...(a)madcynic.com > > > "Still Argentina ***are*** one of the few teams ..." > > "No matter, they ***were*** still the best side ..." > > > > My point was made in response to the first of the above. > > Besides, they were emphatically not the best side in 2006. > > They were outplayed by Mexico. > > Italy, Germany and France were the best sides. Argentina were also > outplayed by the Ivory Coast. Argentina did what they usually do. Arrive > at the tournament over hyped, shot their load early and crashed and > burned just as they did in 1994, 1998 and 2002. Their reputation as one > of the best sides in the World and perennial World Cup contenders is > totally without merit. Have you seen their defence? They haven't had a > decent defence since 1998, let alone one good enough to win a World Cup. > > --http://soccer-europe.com > Rss feed :http://soccer-europe.com/RSS/News.xml Well, leave out 94. That was a wunderteam, before Havelange got rid of Diego. Since then, it has been downhill. 98 wasnt too bad, Bati was there, Ariel Ortega ( without doubt the best "next Maradona" in history ) was there, Ayala was there, there were no midgets in the side. But thats where it ended.
From: Abubakr on 24 Nov 2009 19:40 On 25 Nov, 06:04, Alessandro Riolo <alessandro.ri...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 23 Nov, 00:30, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Still Argentina are one of the few teams ( couple of Africans and > > Russians are others) who still uphold their traditional game .. > > Does that means we will finally end to read about Italian > catenaccio? :p > > Apart the joke, but ever since I have been seeing football matches at > NT level, that would be 1978, the Italian NT has ever played in the > same way (with some atrocious peak, like during Sacchi tenure). > > -- > alehttp://ale.riolo.co.uk You got a point but the reason why the Italians were not mentioned was because their 'catenaccio' brand is the blueprint for today's 'homogeneity of drabness', adopted by all and sundry. Add in a little (of the negative aspects of) English hustle and long ball ( also naturalised by the Italians in the late 90's) and we have our loose end... Funny that you should mention 78 and Sacchi, as in Argentina and England at Euro 96 was one of the few times the Italians have opted for the more expansive Calcio creed in their traditions. They didn't win which is probably why we haven't seen it all that often again.
From: Abubakr on 24 Nov 2009 19:43 On 25 Nov, 07:23, Enzo <s_debgu...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Nov 24, 1:06 pm, Benny <Be...(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Subject : The Wunderteams of football history and why they never won > > a title in their prime > > > From : malte.zan...(a)madcynic.com > > > > "Still Argentina ***are*** one of the few teams ..." > > > "No matter, they ***were*** still the best side ..." > > > > > > My point was made in response to the first of the above. > > > Besides, they were emphatically not the best side in 2006. > > > They were outplayed by Mexico. > > > Italy, Germany and France were the best sides. Argentina were also > > outplayed by the Ivory Coast. Argentina did what they usually do. Arrive > > at the tournament over hyped, shot their load early and crashed and > > burned just as they did in 1994, 1998 and 2002. Their reputation as one > > of the best sides in the World and perennial World Cup contenders is > > totally without merit. Have you seen their defence? They haven't had a > > decent defence since 1998, let alone one good enough to win a World Cup.. > > > --http://soccer-europe.com > > Rss feed :http://soccer-europe.com/RSS/News.xml > > Well, leave out 94. That was a wunderteam, before Havelange > got rid of Diego. Since then, it has been downhill. 98 wasnt too > bad, Bati was there, Ariel Ortega ( without doubt the best > "next Maradona" in history ) was there, Ayala was there, > there were no midgets in the side. But thats where it ended. Ortega was the original midget!
From: Alkamista on 24 Nov 2009 20:51
On Nov 24, 2:23 pm, Enzo <s_debgu...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Ariel Ortega ( without doubt the best "next Maradona" in history ) If you are talking only in an Argentine shirt, then possibly. If club football is taken into account as well then it has to be Messi, even at this young age. Ortega did nothing of note in Europe. Messi has won 3 Ligas, the UCL, UEFA Club Footballer of the Year, has played on Europe's best team, and has justifiably been in contention for best player in the world. |