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From: Insane Ranter on 1 Jul 2010 01:16
On Jun 30, 9:37 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 1, 2:15 am, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 30, 9:04 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 1, 2:02 am, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 30, 8:53 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Jul 1, 1:51 am, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Jun 30, 8:47 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Jul 1, 1:29 am, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Blatter said FIFA would review goal line technology. Review is not
> > > > > > > > good enough for me. It's possible that they can play a world cup
> > > > > > > > without even needing goal line technology. 99% of the time goals hit
> > > > > > > > the back of the net. The real need for technology is with off sides.
> > > > > > > > Here they could totally eliminate the human element and get it right
> > > > > > > > every time. We have all seen the replays on TV. There is also computer
> > > > > > > > technology that could get the off sides call right 100% of the time.
> > > > > > > > Just think of how good that would make the game since these calls are
> > > > > > > > a factor in every single match. My suggestion would be 2 red lights on
> > > > > > > > top of the goal. When they are turned on it's off sides. Linesman
> > > > > > > > would then only be needed to look for fouls that the ref may not see.
> > > > > > > > This should be mandatory at the world cup and optional at any other
> > > > > > > > tournament or league. Blatter of course will never go for it because
> > > > > > > > he doesn't really care about justice in the final results. He likes
> > > > > > > > the mistakes because they create headlines and controversy which he
> > > > > > > > and others at FIFA might think is good for business. It's up to the
> > > > > > > > fans to demand technology and stop watching or spending money on FIFA
> > > > > > > > products if they don't get it. That's the only way they will listen.
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> > > > > > > I am sure if all the players and the ball were wearing some sort of
> > > > > > > tracking device, GPS could be utilised to work out offsides in real
> > > > > > > time and relay infringements to your lights on top of the goals.
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> > > > > > GPS is not exact. Just ask the Iraqui people when they were getting
> > > > > > bombed by technology. Cameras and computers are enough to do what you
> > > > > > are talking about. It's similar to what they show on television.. A
> > > > > > computer can instantly get the calls right 100% of the time.
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> > > > > But how would the camera know what to look for?
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> > > > From what I've heard the cameras just have to show the field and the
> > > > rest is done by a computer. Every time a ball is passed a computer can
> > > > figure out the off sides. It's really not that difficult. Computers
> > > > are used for much more complex tasks than this. I guess the main worry
> > > > would be computer error but I'm sure this technology can be well
> > > > tested before they use it. Even a 1% chance of error would still be
> > > > much better than with humans.
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> > > Where do you get this from?
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> > About 4 years ago while watching a program that showed highlights of
> > the Argentine league games, they showed this off-sides technology
> > which they used to analyze every off-sides call that was close. It was
> > similar to what they show on TV during the replays only that the
> > computer would move the field to give you a perfect horizontal view.
> > Then it would draw a line at the time of the pass that showed clearly
> > who was off-sides or not. The replays in this world cup shade the off-
> > sides area and don't move the camera but you still get the idea. If
> > this technology existed 4 years ago I'm sure it's much better now.
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> But surely it's the operator of the system whose input determines
> which incidents to look at, i.e. there is no automated offside
> 'scanner' that could relay the info to a beacon on the field that will
> flash and play could be stopped as incidents arise.

How baout we go to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_Elux6-zW4&feature=related
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsS1jnlxf4s&feature=related
From: JCQ on 1 Jul 2010 10:02
On Jun 30, 6:37 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 1, 2:15 am, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> But surely it's the operator of the system whose input determines
> which incidents to look at, i.e. there is no automated offside
> 'scanner' that could relay the info to a beacon on the field that will
> flash and play could be stopped as incidents arise.

I really don't know but with technology getting better all the time
I'm sure a fully automated system is a real possibility in the near
future. All a computer would need to do is be well programmed and be
able to tell the difference between the teams. Maybe a few computers
and a few cameras would do it right. Not something for every
tournament perhaps but the world cup could surely use it and this
sport needs it more than any other because one goal and one mistake
can easily determine the outcome of a match.
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