Superstars
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From: Alkamista on 6 Jul 2010 10:46 On Jul 6, 9:48 am, Dwight Beers <hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 07/06/2010 06:33 AM, Alkamista wrote:> On Jul 6, 8:28 am, Jesper Lauridsen<rorsc...(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote: > >> On 2010-07-04, Dwight Beers<hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> On 07/03/2010 08:52 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: > >>>> Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka, Rooney. One goal between them, all gone before > >>>> the last week. > > >>> So, what does Diego Forlan have to do to become a Superstar? :-) > > >> Be a key player for a CL winning team or get his name on this list:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or#Winners > > > I think it's an unspoken rule that to be even considered a superstar > > you have to be playing for one of Europe's big 10 clubs, at the > > minimum. > > So, Diego Forlan, David Villa, Mesut Ozil, Luis Fabiano et al cannot be > considered superstars, but Wes Brown can? > > Pardon my dumbness, but I think this concept might need some more > 'splainen. :-) It's not my rule, it's how a superstar is defined. I believe it's more to do with marketing power than current exploits (e.g. Beckham), in which case you definitely have to play at an elite team. Villa is definitely an exception (though Valencia was in the elite group not too long ago).
From: Keith on 6 Jul 2010 11:49 On Jul 6, 9:48 am, Dwight Beers <hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 07/06/2010 06:33 AM, Alkamista wrote:> On Jul 6, 8:28 am, Jesper Lauridsen<rorsc...(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote: > >> On 2010-07-04, Dwight Beers<hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> On 07/03/2010 08:52 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: > >>>> Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka, Rooney. One goal between them, all gone before > >>>> the last week. > > >>> So, what does Diego Forlan have to do to become a Superstar? :-) > > >> Be a key player for a CL winning team or get his name on this list:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or#Winners > > > I think it's an unspoken rule that to be even considered a superstar > > you have to be playing for one of Europe's big 10 clubs, at the > > minimum. > > So, Diego Forlan, David Villa, Mesut Ozil, Luis Fabiano et al cannot be > considered superstars, but Wes Brown can? Well, he did say be a "key player"... But I agree with you - limiting the definition of a superstar to those playing for only the top clubs in Europe does seem to be bit, well, limiting... Keith
From: Bob on 6 Jul 2010 13:45 Keith wrote: > On Jul 6, 9:48 am, Dwight Beers <hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 07/06/2010 06:33 AM, Alkamista wrote:> On Jul 6, 8:28 am, Jesper >> Lauridsen<rorsc...(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote: >>>> On 2010-07-04, Dwight Beers<hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> On 07/03/2010 08:52 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: >>>>>> Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka, Rooney. One goal between them, all gone >>>>>> before the last week. >> >>>>> So, what does Diego Forlan have to do to become a Superstar? :-) >> >>>> Be a key player for a CL winning team or get his name on this >>>> list:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or#Winners >> >>> I think it's an unspoken rule that to be even considered a superstar >>> you have to be playing for one of Europe's big 10 clubs, at the >>> minimum. >> >> So, Diego Forlan, David Villa, Mesut Ozil, Luis Fabiano et al cannot >> be >> considered superstars, but Wes Brown can? > > Well, he did say be a "key player"... > > But I agree with you - limiting the definition of a superstar to those > playing for only the top clubs in Europe does seem to be bit, well, > limiting... Not very much. Superstars get paid huge amounts of money, which means almost of them play for a wealthy european club (even if indebted).
From: Jesper Lauridsen on 6 Jul 2010 15:55 On 2010-07-06, Keith <powellaw(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Jul 6, 9:48�am, Dwight Beers <hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 07/06/2010 06:33 AM, Alkamista wrote:> On Jul 6, 8:28 am, Jesper Lauridsen<rorsc...(a)sorrystofanet.dk> �wrote: >> >> On 2010-07-04, Dwight Beers<hdbe...(a)gmail.com> �wrote: >> >> >>> On 07/03/2010 08:52 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: >> >>>> Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka, Rooney. One goal between them, all gone before >> >>>> the last week. >> >> >>> So, what does Diego Forlan have to do to become a Superstar? :-) >> >> >> Be a key player for a CL winning team or get his name on this list:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or#Winners >> >> > I think it's an unspoken rule that to be even considered a superstar >> > you have to be playing for one of Europe's big 10 clubs, at the >> > minimum. >> >> So, Diego Forlan, David Villa, Mesut Ozil, Luis Fabiano et al cannot be >> considered superstars, but Wes Brown can? > > Well, he did say be a "key player"... > > But I agree with you - limiting the definition of a superstar to those > playing for only the top clubs in Europe does seem to be bit, well, > limiting... Villa will be playing for Barcelona after the cup. Ozil will not be a Werder player 12 months from now. Forlan did play for Man Utd for a while, but was never more than just ok.
From: Jesper Lauridsen on 6 Jul 2010 15:55
On 2010-07-06, Dwight Beers <hdbeers(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 07/06/2010 05:28 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: >> On 2010-07-04, Dwight Beers<hdbeers(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> So, what does Diego Forlan have to do to become a Superstar? :-) >> >> Be a key player for a CL winning team or get his name on this list: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or#Winners >> > In other words, the team you play for qualifies you for the honor, and > the team you play for must play in the CL and what you do as a player > has no bearing on the situation. No, you have to be a *key* player. Or *seen* as key by the general public. |