From: Dwight Beers on 6 Jul 2010 09:22 On 07/06/2010 05:28 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: > On 2010-07-04, Dwight Beers<hdbeers(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 07/03/2010 08:52 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: >>> Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka, Rooney. One goal between them, all gone before >>> the last week. >>> >>> >> So, what does Diego Forlan have to do to become a Superstar? :-) > > Be a key player for a CL winning team or get his name on this list: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or#Winners > > > As for using goals as yeardstick, the 4 stars I mentioned are all the > central part of their teams offense, and scored 94 league goals between > in the past season. So one measly goal (against North Korea!) is a > disappointment. In other words, the team you play for qualifies you for the honor, and the team you play for must play in the CL and what you do as a player has no bearing on the situation. So, from my point of view, the good news here is that Sacha Kljestan has a better chance of becoming a superstar than Diego Forlan has.
From: Alkamista on 6 Jul 2010 09:33 On Jul 6, 8:28 am, Jesper Lauridsen <rorsc...(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote: > On 2010-07-04, Dwight Beers <hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 07/03/2010 08:52 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: > >> Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka, Rooney. One goal between them, all gone before > >> the last week. > > > So, what does Diego Forlan have to do to become a Superstar? :-) > > Be a key player for a CL winning team or get his name on this list:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or#Winners I think it's an unspoken rule that to be even considered a superstar you have to be playing for one of Europe's big 10 clubs, at the minimum.
From: Binder Dundat on 6 Jul 2010 09:45 On Jul 6, 9:33 am, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 6, 8:28 am, Jesper Lauridsen <rorsc...(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote: > > > On 2010-07-04, Dwight Beers <hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 07/03/2010 08:52 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: > > >> Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka, Rooney. One goal between them, all gone before > > >> the last week. > > > > So, what does Diego Forlan have to do to become a Superstar? :-) > > > Be a key player for a CL winning team or get his name on this list:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or#Winners > > I think it's an unspoken rule that to be even considered a superstar > you have to be playing for one of Europe's big 10 clubs, at the > minimum. Ballon d'or: Sneidjer has to win or Schweinsteiger if Germany win the WC and he continues to play the way he has. Milito should be close but probably will not be because he barely played in this WC. As for this WC I would say the same with maybe Villa, Mueller or Lahm getting votes. Mueller has to win the young player award. Now If Uruguay win today and Forlan scores then he has to be a top candidate,
From: Dwight Beers on 6 Jul 2010 09:48 On 07/06/2010 06:33 AM, Alkamista wrote: > On Jul 6, 8:28 am, Jesper Lauridsen<rorsc...(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote: >> On 2010-07-04, Dwight Beers<hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 07/03/2010 08:52 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: >>>> Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka, Rooney. One goal between them, all gone before >>>> the last week. >> >>> So, what does Diego Forlan have to do to become a Superstar? :-) >> >> Be a key player for a CL winning team or get his name on this list:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or#Winners > > I think it's an unspoken rule that to be even considered a superstar > you have to be playing for one of Europe's big 10 clubs, at the > minimum. So, Diego Forlan, David Villa, Mesut Ozil, Luis Fabiano et al cannot be considered superstars, but Wes Brown can? Pardon my dumbness, but I think this concept might need some more 'splainen. :-)
From: milivella on 6 Jul 2010 10:33
Jesper Lauridsen: > On 2010-07-04, Dwight Beers <hdbe...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 07/03/2010 08:52 AM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote: > >> Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka, Rooney. One goal between them, all gone before > >> the last week. > > > So, what does Diego Forlan have to do to become a Superstar? :-) > > Be a key player for a CL winning team or get his name on this list:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or#Winners > > As for using goals as yeardstick, the 4 stars I mentioned are all the > central part of their teams offense, and scored 94 league goals between > in the past season. So one measly goal (against North Korea!) is a > disappointment. Relevant: "scorers and winners" ranking http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/browse_thread/thread/89351df6eddb9dcc# In the latest ranking http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/9b8b749f60aac1a8 Villa is 12th, Forlan is 26th, Luis Fabiano and Oezil (...and Wes Brown) are out of the top 30. -- Cheers milivella |