From: Mike Hall on
On 2 July, 23:28, SHUSSBAR <shuss...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 2, 5:18 pm, Mike Hall <tar...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2 July, 23:03, SHUSSBAR <shuss...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Suarez vs. Henry :
>
> > > Both used their hands
> > > Both used their hands : one to get some help to control the ball that
> > > lead to a goal, the other one to get some help to stop a ball that
> > > prevented a goal.
> > > At the end, it can be be argued that they both prevented another team
> > > to advance further in the competition.
>
> > > Question : should pizza hut in Ghana give free pizza anytime a
> > > Netherlands scores vs. Uruguay?
>
> > Both are cheats.  Pizza is not particularly healthy.
>
> Lol
>
> > When role models cheat, those who idolize them are less likely to
> > value nobility.
>
> What about the german goal keeper Nauner?  vs England? He should have
> told the ref that the ball went in. After Thierry Hnery s goal, lot of
> people/media said that he should have been honest and tell the ref.

Yes. All true. The cheating here is just the tip of the iceberg.
The fact of the matter is that you don't get anywhere near the
professional game if you are an honest player.


Mike Hall
From: Trust No One� on

"Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> wrote in message news:897859FudfU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> Trust No One� wrote:
>> "Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> wrote in message
>> news:8976djFl5iU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>> d0asta wrote:
>>>> On 3 Juli, 00:03, SHUSSBAR <shuss...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Suarez vs. Henry :
>>>>>
>>>>> Both used their hands
>>>>
>>>> Who got away with it?
>>>
>>> So someone who gets caught stealing isn't a thief?
>>>
>> Only if he/she gets caught :)
>
> LOL
>
DOH!

--
Peter <X-Files fan>


From: Bob on
MH wrote:
> SHUSSBAR wrote:
>> Suarez vs. Henry :
>>
>> Both used their hands
>> Both used their hands : one to get some help to control the ball that
>> lead to a goal, the other one to get some help to stop a ball that
>> prevented a goal.
>> At the end, it can be be argued that they both prevented another team
>> to advance further in the competition.
>>
>> Question : should pizza hut in Ghana give free pizza anytime a
>> Netherlands scores vs. Uruguay?
>
> Not quite identical situations, because Henry was risking very little
> (worst consequences a whistle and yellow card) whereas Su�rez, if he
> thought about it all, would have known it was a penalty and red card.

But the odds weren't quite the same because Suarez prevented a sure goal
whereas Henry's hand could have been for naught.


> Was the free kick from which this situation arose even justified, by
> the way? Fucile seemed quite upset about it. I may be wrong but I
> also had a suspicion of offside in the buildup.

I think there was offside too


From: JCQ on
It's amazing that people still complain about cheating. It's up to the
ref to decide that and to get the calls right. The players will try to
get away with as much as they can because the opponents would do the
same if given the chance. What Suarez did was part of the game. He had
no choice but to use his hands. It was very clear but if the ref
somehow misses it and doesn't call a penalty it's still not cheating.
From: Mike Hall on
On 3 July, 00:01, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> It's amazing that people still complain about cheating. It's up to the
> ref to decide that and to get the calls right. The players will try to
> get away with as much as they can because the opponents would do the
> same if given the chance. What Suarez did was part of the game. He had
> no choice but to use his hands. It was very clear but if the ref
> somehow misses it and doesn't call a penalty it's still not cheating.

If one deliberately break the rules, one is cheating. End of. Take
up the argument with the English language.

However I am not going to demonize the guy because many of us would
have done the same.


Mike Hall