Spain recreation (a game)
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From: The Scrutineer on 22 Jul 2010 12:02 "The Scrutineer" <vlade4(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message news:BYZ1o.1451$Yv.380(a)viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com... >> Casillas, Iker > Edwin van der Sar > >> Sergio Ramos > Phil Lahm > >> Piqu�, Gerard > Per Mertesacker > >> Puyol, Carles > John Terry > >> Capdevila, Joan > Patrice Evra > >> Busquets, Sergio > Michael Carrick > >> Xabi Alonso > Esteban Cambiasso > >> Xavi > Frank Ribery (Ran out if ideas, had very limited options) > >> Iniesta, Andr�s > Landon Donovan > >> Pedro > Ivica Olic > >> Villa, David > Diego Forlan > Any dramas with selections let me know!!!
From: milivella on 22 Jul 2010 12:18 The Scrutineer: Thanks for playing. Here is your score: Casillas, Iker van der Sar, Edwin 155 Van der Sar better with right foot! (does anybody know a left-footed GK?) Sergio Ramos Lahm, Philipp 208 Sergio Ramos fitter as CD. Piqué, Gerard Mertesacker, Per 190 Piqué fitter as DM. Puyol, Carles Terry, John 170 Putol fitter as DR. Capdevila, Joan Evra, Patrice 158 Capdevila more long shots. Evra more loyalty. Busquets, Sergio Carrick, Michael 141 Carrick more temperament. Xabi Alonso Cambiasso, Esteban 188 Cambiasso fitter as CD (?!). Iniesta, Andrés Donovan, Landon 220 Donovan fitter as striker. Xavi Ribéry, Franck 256 Ribery fitter as left AM. Pedro Olic, Ivica 251 Pedro fitter as right AM. Villa, David Forlán, Diego 159 Villa fitter as free role (?!). Total: 2,098 Ranking: 1,582 Abubakr (1st to play) 1,975 Futbolmetrix (3rd) 2,098 The Scrutineer (4th) 2,143 Diabolik (2nd) --- Best team so far: Casillas, Iker Júlio César 142 Sergio Ramos Ivanovic, Branislav 147 Piqué, Gerard Nesta, Alessandro 151 Puyol, Carles Cannavaro, Fabio 157 Capdevila, Joan Cole, Ashley 156 Busquets, Sergio Touré, Yaya 121 Xabi Alonso Gago, Fernando 109 Iniesta, Andrés Nasri, Samir 127 Xavi Pirlo, Andrea 99 Pedro Arshavin, Andrey 172 Villa, David Tevez, Carlos 125 -- Cheers milivella
From: Lord of War on 22 Jul 2010 12:39 On Jul 22, 7:54 am, milivella <milive...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Your goal is to re-create the Spain NT that won the WC... using non- > Spanish players. > > I.e. you have to name the 11 players that are in your opinion more > similar to the ones that Del Bosque fielded against Nehterlands: > > Casillas, Iker > Sergio Ramos > Piqué, Gerard > Puyol, Carles > Capdevila, Joan > Busquets, Sergio > Xabi Alonso > Xavi > Iniesta, Andrés > Pedro > Villa, David > > You can't use any player already named by another RSSer, nor any of > the Dutch XI (you'll soon see why). > > Deadline: July 25, 23:59 GMT. > > I'll then compute your score, that is the sum of the degrees of > similarity between each of your players and the corresponding Spanish > player. The RSSer with the better (i.e. lower, see below) score will > win. > > --- > > E.g. if you submit Netherlands' XI, your score is 2,171: > > Casillas, Iker > Stekelenburg, Maarten > 170 > > Sergio Ramos > van der Wiel, Gregory > 198 > > Piqué, Gerard > Heitinga, John > 189 > > Puyol, Carles > Mathijsen, Joris > 197 > > Capdevila, Joan > van Bronckhorst, Giovanni > 171 > > Busquets, Sergio > van Bommel, Mark > 188 > > Xabi Alonso > de Jong, Nigel > 212 > > Iniesta, Andrés > Robben, Arjen > 218 > > Xavi > Sneijder, Wesley > 187 > > Pedro > Kuyt, Dirk > 276 > > Villa, David > van Persie, Robin > 165 > > Lower values means less dissimilarity = more similarity, i.e. are > better. I.e. the most similar players are Villa-van Persie, the less > similar are Iniesta-Robben. > > The parameters that determine the degree of similarities are: > - current ability > - fitness in each position > - the following abilities: Acceleration, Adaptability, Aerial Ability, > Aggression, Agility, Ambition, Anticipation, Balance, Bravery, Command > Of Area, Communication, Composure, Concentration, Consistency, > Controversy, Corners, Creativity, Crossing, Decisions, Determination, > Dirtiness, Dribbling, Eccentricity, Finishing, First Touch, Flair, > Handling, Heading, Important Matches, Influence, Injury Proneness, > Jumping, Kicking, Long Shots, Long Throws, Loyalty, Marking, Natural > Fitness, Off The Ball, One On Ones, Pace, Passing, Penalties, > Positioning, Pressure, Professionalism, Reflexes, Rushing Out, Free > Kicks, Sportsmanship, Stamina, Strength, Tackling, Teamwork, > Technique, Temperament, Throwing, Versatility, Work Rate, Tendency To > Punch, Left Foot, Right Foot > - rating in each position > Each of these parameters can have a value between 0 and 100. Each > parameter is treated as a point in a 95-dimension space: what I do is > computing the Euclidean distance between the two players in such a > space. > > Tip: since current ability accounts for just 1% of the similarity (but > it also influences the rating in each position!), a player that is of > the same kind of the Spanish one, even if far worse (or better...) > than him, will assure you a good score. For the same reason, picking a > player that is exactly as good, but very different in his style of > play, will give you a bad score. > > -- > Cheers > milivella With or without Spain bribing the refs to win the world cup????
From: milivella on 22 Jul 2010 13:00 Lord of War: > On Jul 22, 7:54 am, milivella <milive...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Your goal is to re-create the Spain NT that won the WC... using non- > > Spanish players. [snip] > With or without Spain bribing the refs to win the world cup???? Indeed I could have added the Spanish staff, so that you should have found similarly bribing people! :) -- Cheers milivella
From: Futbolmetrix on 22 Jul 2010 17:24
"milivella" <milivella(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:a3ae531f-2740-4104-a734-2483ad257b3d(a)5g2000yqz.googlegroups.com... > Best team so far: It looks as if similarity of ability is more important than similarity of playing style. For example, I would have said that Van der Sar is very different from Casillas, but he scored much better than Aouate, a goalie with similar skills, but not nearly as highly rated as VdS. That said, I wonder if we can do any better than the current best team. Maybe you could post just the scores of the clones, without posting their names? > Casillas, Iker > J�lio C�sar > 142 Given what was said above about ability, this is going to be very difficult to beat. > Sergio Ramos > Ivanovic, Branislav > 147 Right defenders who can on occasion also play CD, good in the air and a threat on set pieces. Hmmm... > Piqu�, Gerard > Nesta, Alessandro > 151 We should be able to do better than this > Puyol, Carles > Cannavaro, Fabio > 157 FM overestimates Cannavaro's current skills. > Capdevila, Joan > Cole, Ashley > 156 How about Abidal, or Maxwell? > Busquets, Sergio > Tour�, Yaya > 121 Difficult to beat. > Xabi Alonso > Gago, Fernando > 109 Looks pretty cloneworthy. > Iniesta, Andr�s > Nasri, Samir > 127 Difficult to beat > Xavi > Pirlo, Andrea > 99 Wow, must be the clone! > Pedro > Arshavin, Andrey > 172 Here I think we have to look for someone not quite as established as the names we have made so far. Shaun Wright-Phillips? > Villa, David > Tevez, Carlos > 125 Difficult to beat. D |