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From: HASM on 25 Jun 2010 12:17
William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> writes:

> Then you have not been watching tennis lately. Go check out the use of
> Hawkeye at Wimbledon.

Something like Hawkeye could be used, but it would need a lot more cameras
because of the potential field of view obstructions from players, goal
posts, etc. Maybe if the "cameras" were built into the goal posts but it
is not easy.

The current system was used in a youth tournament a couple of years back
and the referees were real-time informed of several goals where the ball
went over the bar by several yards, and that's one of the reasons the
system was sent back for review. This according to a referee that was an AR
during the game in some training session I attended back then.

-- HASM


From: HASM on 25 Jun 2010 12:23
William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> writes:

> No, because there is other technology to track players, such as GPS, that
> is much simpler.

Maybe other technology but not GPS for sure, even differential GPS, unless
you change the law to read "the GPS of the attacker needs to have GPS from
two defenders between him and the goal line (and the other standard
conditions).

Otherwise one needs a GPS in each big toe, knee, hip, shoulder, around the
head, and whatever other point in your body can be closest to the goal
line.

And this is not like a central Hawkeye system. These things need batteries
and can't fail during the game, sustain being kicked, etc.

Maybe some day but I don't think we have the technology today that can do
much better than video relay.

-- HASM



From: Jesper Lauridsen on 25 Jun 2010 13:16
On 2010-06-24, Mark V. <markvanderv1(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 4:02�am, Huw Morris <n...(a)spam.please> wrote:
>
>> I'm getting pretty tired of the whinging from fans of all sides here on rss,
>> and on other message boards, and the Americans seem among the worst.
>
> Stay off the other message boards, then. The US fans on RSS have been
> fine!

I've seen stuff like "the worst decision in world cup history" and threads
with "JUSTICE" in the subject line.
From: William Clark on 25 Jun 2010 17:49
In article <m3k4pnulx7.fsf(a)127.0.0.1>, HASM <netnews(a)invalid.com>
wrote:

> William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> writes:
>
> > Then you have not been watching tennis lately. Go check out the use of
> > Hawkeye at Wimbledon.
>
> Something like Hawkeye could be used, but it would need a lot more cameras
> because of the potential field of view obstructions from players, goal
> posts, etc. Maybe if the "cameras" were built into the goal posts but it
> is not easy.
>
> The current system was used in a youth tournament a couple of years back
> and the referees were real-time informed of several goals where the ball
> went over the bar by several yards, and that's one of the reasons the
> system was sent back for review. This according to a referee that was an AR
> during the game in some training session I attended back then.
>
> -- HASM

But it has since been demonstrated to FIFA (earlier this year) and
worked fine. It's FIFA that is broken.
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