From: Chagney Hunt on
On Jul 6, 5:33 pm, hs...(a)der-ball-ist-rund.net (Sven Mischkies) wrote:
> El Kot <nono.black.e...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sven Mischkies wrote:
> > > Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> <Kaise...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >>>   Van Bronkhorst's goal was very similar to the one Haan scored
> > >>> against Italy in 1978 to put them in the final.  It was from almost
> > >>> the same spot, and took almost the same trajectory, even though Haan
> > >>> did it with the top of his right foot and got some reverse spin on it.
> > >>> Zoff and Fulsera dived vainly in just the same way.
>
> > >> The incredible thing about GvB's shot is that it had the trajectory of a
> > >> normal football, not a Jabulani!
>
> > > No, the incredible thing about GvB's shot is that he was allowed to take
> > > it and that the ref let MvB's red card seconds offense seconds earlie
> > > slip.
>
> >    I didn't notice any offence, let a lone a red-card one, in the
> > build-up. Will have to find a way to re-watch the situation.
>
> >    But apart from that, isn't everybody happy that Holland won? We want
> > a repeat of the '74 final, after all!
>
> They are the dirtiest team in the competition, why would anybody be
> happy? Uruguay would have been more romantic, too - and what is special
> about a NL - ESP final anyway? ;)

For once, the name of Spain will be sung during national anthem?
From: Clément on
On Jul 6, 6:05 pm, Jesus Petry wrote:
> On Jul 6, 6:01 pm, El Kot wrote:
>
> >    But apart from that, isn't everybody happy that Holland won? We want
> > a repeat of the '74 final, after all!
>
>  I'm not. And I don't have anything against the Netherlands.

At this point (after the QFs), I would be happy with any results, to
be honest. Uruguay x Germany, Uruguay x Spain, Netherlands x Germany,
or Netherlands x Spain: what's not to like here?

In today's match, I was really torn. Emotionally, I was leaning
towards Uruguay. Rationally, I had some reasons to want the
Netherlands to win.

So I just decided to forget about it and watch a great game. I wasn't
disappointed.

In fact, I'm thoroughly enjoying this fantastic World Cup (it's a pity
I couldn't get to watch more games).

Abraço,

Luiz Mello
From: Chagney Hunt on
On Jul 6, 5:39 pm, Clément <lcmello.lis...(a)terra.com.br> wrote:
> On Jul 6, 6:05 pm, Jesus Petry wrote:
>
> > On Jul 6, 6:01 pm, El Kot wrote:
>
> > >    But apart from that, isn't everybody happy that Holland won? We want
> > > a repeat of the '74 final, after all!
>
> >  I'm not. And I don't have anything against the Netherlands.
>
> At this point (after the QFs), I would be happy with any results, to
> be honest. Uruguay x Germany, Uruguay x Spain, Netherlands x Germany,
> or Netherlands x Spain: what's not to like here?
>
> In today's match, I was really torn. Emotionally, I was leaning
> towards Uruguay. Rationally, I had some reasons to want the
> Netherlands to win.
>
> So I just decided to forget about it and watch a great game. I wasn't
> disappointed.
>
> In fact, I'm thoroughly enjoying this fantastic World Cup (it's a pity
> I couldn't get to watch more games).

I've never lost any love for Uruguay from their cheating, diving,
chopping days of not very distant past so I didn't have any conflict
rooting for the Dutch. I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon to
shower praises on what great World Cup they had either. I'm just glad
they are out of the final.

(And yes, I'm still bitter about Lugano)
From: Starcade on
On Jul 6, 1:31 pm, Werner Pichler <wpich...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> I hope the Uruguay haters in the group are happy because
> the ref sure didn't give them any favours.

Especially the linesman on the left side...

Mike
From: Ll�o on
"Manx Gunner" <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:MPG.269da569cc889939897af(a)news.giganews.com...
> [Ll�o <lleo_lm(a)lycos.com>]
> [Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:26:37 -0300]
>
> : Too bad that they couldn't do it again.
>
> Too bad that they couldn't cheat their way forward again?

I don't think Uruguay cheated their way to the semifinals, nor was I
suggesting that they should cheat their way past the Dutch. So, I'm not sure
what you mean with "again".

> Are you quite
> mad, sir, or do you just enjoy chaos?

Chalk it up to madness if you will, but I really enjoyed watching Uruguay in
this World Cup. Never had any hopes they'd leave the group stage, but here
they are. I liked their attitude overall, and would have liked to see it
further rewarded.

But the Dutch won, and they've earned it, so that's that. And, since you
asked, I do enjoy chaos, in the mathematical sense. Makes for some
interesting reading and some really nice fractal pictures as a bonus. And in
the football sense, if "chaos" means a team like Uruguay punching above its
perceived weight and making it far (and in the way they did it), I'm all for
it.

--
Ll�o


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