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From: Binder Dundat on 14 Oct 2009 17:09
For those of you who do not know it yet a few days ago Germany beat
Russia in Moscow 1-0, an interesting game from what i remember of it
with Boaetng getting his first call up and Adler and Ozil getting
their sixth and fifth call up.

Russland
Aufstellung:
Akinfeev
(3)
-Anyukov,(3),V. Berezutskiy(3),Ignashevich(4,5),Zhirkov(3,5)
-Denisov(3,5) -Bystrov(2),Zyryanov(2,5),Semshov(3)
-Arshavin(1,5)
-Kerzhakov(3)

Einwechslungen:
46.Torbinskiy(2,5)für Denisov
54.Pavlyuchenko(4)für Kerzhakov
77.Pogrebnyakf ür Semshov

Deutschland
Aufstellung:
R. Adler(1)-
J. Boateng(5),Mertesacker(3),Westermann(3,5),Lahm(2)
-Ballack(2) ,Rolfes(3,5)-Schweinsteiger(2,5),Özil(2,5),Podolski(3,5)
-Klose(2)

Einwechslungen:
72.A. FriedrichfürÖzil
86.TrochowskifürPodolski
89.GomezfürKlose

The number in brackets is the kicker rating for the game. What sticks
out for me is the 5 for Boateng ( 1 to 5 rating. 1 highest 5 lowest).
I thought he played reasonably well and the red card which I think was
due to a second yellow looked to me as if he got the ball first and
the Russian player then hit his legs? For those of you that watched
the game what do you think?
I like Boateng and I hope this is not the end of his international
career. I am going to sound biased again but i though the Germans
played better than the Russians on the rubber grass. i play on this
stuff most of the year from October to May and sometimes in the
summer. And though it is a good surface compared to astro turf or wood
floors I think it should not be used, still too much potential for
injury.
Arne Friedrich still gets called up even though he clearly fouled a
Russian player in a place of no danger, I assume the call was not made
because the ball was going out of bounds anyway, but I hope the game
against Finland today is his final game. Much better players than Arne
now.

Adler gets a one which is a bit generous but deserved, I though he
made a couple of key saves.
Mertesaker played OK even if he got out jumped by Arshavin once and
seemed to be falling down too much.
Westermann is better attacking than defending, I like attacking
players and i like Wetermann as well but he can sometimes be a
defensive liability.
Good game for Lahm

Ballack played a good game though nothing special
Ozil played well and showed some good creativity (something that
Ballck misses)
Schweinsteiger played well almost scored but for a great block early
in the game by a Russian defender
Rolfes did not play that well in my opinion, he was prone to making
poor passing decisions like passing to a player that was covered by
two opponents.

Podolski ran hard and played well
Klose scored and seemed to be playing very deep most of the game, also
worked hard, in fact both forwards did a lot of running back I thought.
From: Werner Pichler on 14 Oct 2009 17:29
On 14 Okt., 23:09, Binder Dundat <dun...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> For those of you who do not know it yet a few days ago Germany beat
> Russia in Moscow 1-0, an interesting game from what i remember of it
> with Boaetng getting his first call up and Adler and Ozil getting
> their sixth and fifth call up.
>
> Russland
> Aufstellung:
> Akinfeev
> (3)
> -Anyukov,(3),V. Berezutskiy(3),Ignashevich(4,5),Zhirkov(3,5)
> -Denisov(3,5) -Bystrov(2),Zyryanov(2,5),Semshov(3)
>  -Arshavin(1,5)
> -Kerzhakov(3)
>
> Einwechslungen:
> 46.Torbinskiy(2,5)für Denisov
> 54.Pavlyuchenko(4)für Kerzhakov
> 77.Pogrebnyakf ür Semshov
>
> Deutschland
> Aufstellung:
> R. Adler(1)-
> J. Boateng(5),Mertesacker(3),Westermann(3,5),Lahm(2)
> -Ballack(2) ,Rolfes(3,5)-Schweinsteiger(2,5),Özil(2,5),Podolski(3,5)
> -Klose(2)
>
> Einwechslungen:
> 72.A. FriedrichfürÖzil
> 86.TrochowskifürPodolski
> 89.GomezfürKlose
>
> The number in brackets is the kicker rating for the game. What sticks
> out for me is the 5 for Boateng ( 1 to 5 rating. 1 highest 5 lowest).

Actually, it's a 1 to 6 rating with 6 the lowest.

> I thought he played reasonably well and the red card which I think was
> due to a second yellow looked to me as if he got the ball first and
> the Russian player then hit his legs? For those of you that watched
> the game what do you think?
>  I like Boateng and I hope this is not the end of his international
> career. I am going to sound biased again but i though the Germans
> played better than the Russians on the rubber grass. i play on this
> stuff most of the year from October to May and sometimes in the
> summer. And though it is a good surface compared to astro turf or wood
> floors I think it should not be used,  still too much potential for
> injury.
> Arne Friedrich still gets called up even though he clearly fouled a
> Russian player in a place of no danger, I assume the call was not made
> because the ball was going out of bounds anyway,

Should have been a penalty nevertheless.

Ciao,
Werner


> but I hope the game
> against Finland today is his final game. Much better players than Arne
> now.

> Adler gets a one which is a bit generous but deserved, I though he
> made a couple of key saves.
> Mertesaker played OK even if he got out jumped by Arshavin once and
> seemed to be falling down too much.
> Westermann is better attacking than defending, I like attacking
> players and i like Wetermann as well but he can sometimes be a
> defensive liability.
> Good game for Lahm
>
> Ballack played a good game though nothing special
> Ozil played well and showed some good creativity (something that
> Ballck misses)
> Schweinsteiger played well almost scored but for a great block early
> in the game by a Russian defender
> Rolfes did not play that well in my opinion, he was prone to making
> poor passing decisions like passing to a player that was covered by
> two opponents.
>
> Podolski ran hard and played well
> Klose scored and seemed to be playing very deep most of the game, also
> worked hard, in fact both forwards did a lot of running back I thought.

From: Matthias Mühlich on 15 Oct 2009 02:22
Binder Dundat schrieb:
> What sticks
> out for me is the 5 for Boateng ( 1 to 5 rating. 1 highest 5 lowest).
> I thought he played reasonably well and the red card which I think was
> due to a second yellow looked to me as if he got the ball first and
> the Russian player then hit his legs? For those of you that watched
> the game what do you think?

Deserved red card; he hit the player. But a 5 is a bit too harsh.
From: Jesper Lauridsen on 16 Oct 2009 17:41
On 2009-10-14, Binder Dundat <dundat(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The number in brackets is the kicker rating for the game. What sticks
> out for me is the 5 for Boateng ( 1 to 5 rating. 1 highest 5 lowest).
> I thought he played reasonably well and the red card which I think was
> due to a second yellow looked to me as if he got the ball first and
> the Russian player then hit his legs? For those of you that watched
> the game what do you think?

He did have a good match, and I think his two cards were his only fouls.
However, both were clear cut bookings. The referee had little choice.
Kicker always give bad notes to sent-off players (and good notes to goal
scorers).

I thought �zil was man-of-the-match.
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