Question to hardcore football experts - Has there not been a single all time great after Diego Maradona?
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From: Mart van de Wege on 15 Jul 2010 08:24 "Diabolik" <Diabolik(a)nospam.com> writes: > "Mart van de Wege" <mvdwege(a)mail.com> wrote in message > news:8639vlz6nn.fsf(a)gareth.avalon.lan... >> "Diabolik" <diabolik(a)nospam.com> writes: <snip> >>> Infact he's not rated the best just because of that WC. >>> >>> It's his entire career, from when he started to Napoli. <snip> >> So, what I said: one World Cup and a couple of great club seasons. > > He was influential in more than a couple, if you go before Barca. > You realise how stupid you sound to contradict yourself within two posts, right? Mart -- "We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes." --- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.
From: Mart van de Wege on 15 Jul 2010 08:27 Mart van de Wege <mvdwege(a)mail.com> writes: > "Diabolik" <Diabolik(a)nospam.com> writes: > >> "Mart van de Wege" <mvdwege(a)mail.com> wrote in message >> news:8639vlz6nn.fsf(a)gareth.avalon.lan... >>> "Diabolik" <diabolik(a)nospam.com> writes: > <snip> > >>>> Infact he's not rated the best just because of that WC. >>>> >>>> It's his entire career, from when he started to Napoli. > > <snip> > >>> So, what I said: one World Cup and a couple of great club seasons. >> >> He was influential in more than a couple, if you go before Barca. >> > You realise how stupid you sound to contradict yourself within two > posts, right? > Let me correct that: there is no contradiction, as you wrote *to* Napoli. Still, Maradona was nothing special at Barca, he had a season or 2 of really great play at Napoli, an excellent WC '86, and then the rot set in slowly. In '88 it was clear he was not on his usual top form anymore, and after that it went downhill fast. If you want to claim he was world class before Napoli, I stand by my assesment of stupidity. Mart -- "We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes." --- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.
From: Diabolik on 15 Jul 2010 10:09 "Mart van de Wege" <mvdwege(a)mail.com> wrote in message news:86tyo1x73l.fsf(a)gareth.avalon.lan... > Mart van de Wege <mvdwege(a)mail.com> writes: > >> "Diabolik" <Diabolik(a)nospam.com> writes: >> >>> "Mart van de Wege" <mvdwege(a)mail.com> wrote in message >>> news:8639vlz6nn.fsf(a)gareth.avalon.lan... >>>> "Diabolik" <diabolik(a)nospam.com> writes: >> <snip> >> >>>>> Infact he's not rated the best just because of that WC. >>>>> >>>>> It's his entire career, from when he started to Napoli. >> >> <snip> >> >>>> So, what I said: one World Cup and a couple of great club seasons. >>> >>> He was influential in more than a couple, if you go before Barca. >>> >> You realise how stupid you sound to contradict yourself within two >> posts, right? >> > Let me correct that: there is no contradiction, as you wrote *to* > Napoli. > > Still, Maradona was nothing special at Barca, he had a season or 2 of > really great play at Napoli, an excellent WC '86, and then the rot set > in slowly. In '88 it was clear he was not on his usual top form anymore, > and after that it went downhill fast. > > If you want to claim he was world class before Napoli, I stand by my > assesment of stupidity. He was world class before and after Napoli, until (like you suggest) he started going off the rails. Which other player has ever scored a gol like the one against England? He was freak when playing for Napoli, his playing was phenomenal. And he was playing against the hardest defenders in the world, who used to hack and get away with it. Dribbling skills: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah8xBnjtYWw&feature=related Vision and passing skills http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--ACUzCCza8 Napoli gols: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1IrIdlRjao Incredible cross with the other foot (also done with Napoli): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xllj8RKWUmA&feature=related Which player has ever done what he did???
From: Superdave on 15 Jul 2010 20:52 On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:35:46 -0700 (PDT), Giovanna <giovanapel(a)bol.com.br> wrote: > >> > Are they still playing ? >> >> �Yes, Ronaldo plays for Corinthians > >he's very fat~~ how can he play football and run around all day and be very fat ? anyway, i don't want to hug him or anything. i just remember him being a big star at the barcelona wc which is the first and only one i watched all the matches.
From: Superdave on 15 Jul 2010 20:55
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:27:10 -0700 (PDT), "Raja, The Great" <zepfloyes(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Jul 15, 6:15�pm, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Jul 15, 6:33�pm, karava <karavana...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > On Jul 13, 8:28�am, "Raja, The Great" <zepflo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > Has there not been a single all time great after Diego Maradona? >> >> > To me, an easy NO. >> >> > But then, I also think there wasn't any before -- may be till Pele. I >> > could be wrongI dont think the game was that physical back then: What >> > I mean is, Maradona had to be more just to be considered equal to >> > Pele. >> >> I think most coaches if they had to pick between Pele and Maradona at >> their peaks to win one game they would pick Maradona because he was >> more of a play maker, great passer, and he improved the quality of the >> other players. Pele was more of goal scorer and needed to be on a good >> team to help him score. By this I'm not saying Maradona was better. >> They were both great but one had more of an impact on the teams he >> played on. > >I think midfielders are automatically considered better players than >forwards/strikers. Midfielders are usually playmakers and do the hard >work and give the assits. The strikers main job is to be at the right >place at the right time (biggest example Miroslav Klose). Maradona >played in the midfield, Pele was a striker, so there is a perception >issue here. and some ar Paki wannabe Indians. |