From: Bruce D. Scott on
anders t (anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com) wrote:
: Quoting Bruce D. Scott in rec.sport.soccer:
: >anders t (anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com) wrote:
: >: Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
: >
: >: >But it's deserved, and I'm very very much looking forward to
: >: >a Spain-Germany semifinal.
: >
: >: Hmm... Have they ever met in a WC?
: >
: >I've seen '82 and '94... is that it?

: Strange. I cannot recall those. They mustn't have been very memorable?

I had the misfortune to watch both matches.
82 was epecially dire but it got the job done for the Germans.
94 was a 1-1 effort, I remember posting during the match about how Spain
had the upper hand but weren't finishing, and Gustaaf van Moorsel
emailing me saying oh no that means Germany will win :-)
I think the first one was 1-0 Germany and the second was 1-1

My prediction is that Germany will get at most one goal against Spain.
Whether that will get them through is up for grabs. I hope they have
the guts to start Toni Kroos in Mueller's place.

--
ciao,
Bruce

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From: Bruce D. Scott on
Lleo (lleo_lm(a)lycos.com) wrote:
[...]
: Overall, a great game, if only for its second half. Hats off to both
: teams, I say.

A very nice post... I did indeed understimate the anguish of Spanish
fans over this. They were more confident during the Euro, but there is
no substitute for the World Cup.

The only disappointment for me was the same lacksadaisical attitude of
Roque, who except for a nice six-month spell (during which he got an
important 1-0 goal in Leverkisen) was more or less the same as I
remember him in Bayern. He's a much better player than that... if he
only had the mental edge to go with all that talent. Valdez is quite
inferior talent wise, but tougher.

What happened to Barrios? Did he even start?

--
ciao,
Bruce

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From: Chagney Hunt on
On Jul 3, 11:15 pm, b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote:

> My prediction is that Germany will get at most one goal against Spain.
> Whether that will get them through is up for grabs.  I hope they have
> the guts to start Toni Kroos in Mueller's place.

I don't know why they need guts to start a Bayern loanee when the
alternative is just as youthful and exciting Marin :-)
From: Bruce D. Scott on
Chagney Hunt (essetm(a)gmail.com) wrote:
: On Jul 3, 11:15=A0pm, b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote:

: > My prediction is that Germany will get at most one goal against Spain.
: > Whether that will get them through is up for grabs. =A0I hope they have
: > the guts to start Toni Kroos in Mueller's place.

: I don't know why they need guts to start a Bayern loanee when the
: alternative is just as youthful and exciting Marin :-)

Actually I forgot about him, but it happens that he did get a chance or
two and didn't look very good, while Kroos looked very good for the
short time he was out there against Argentina. Sven says it's
Trochowski. Not sure whether I would rate that, unless Loew wants to be
a bit more defensive (which if so would IMHO be a mistake).


--
ciao,
Bruce

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From: Chagney Hunt on
On Jul 3, 11:51 pm, b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote:
> Chagney Hunt (ess...(a)gmail.com) wrote:
>
> : On Jul 3, 11:15=A0pm, b...(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce D. Scott) wrote:
>
> : > My prediction is that Germany will get at most one goal against Spain..
> : > Whether that will get them through is up for grabs. =A0I hope they have
> : > the guts to start Toni Kroos in Mueller's place.
>
> : I don't know why they need guts to start a Bayern loanee when the
> : alternative is just as youthful and exciting Marin :-)
>
> Actually I forgot about him, but it happens that he did get a chance or
> two and didn't look very good, while Kroos looked very good for the
> short time he was out there against Argentina.  Sven says it's
> Trochowski.  Not sure whether I would rate that, unless Loew wants to be
> a bit more defensive (which if so would IMHO be a mistake).

It's easier to look good with the momentum behind you. Marin had to
come into a difficult situation against Serbia.