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From: RED DEVIL on 13 Aug 2010 11:08
Arsene Wenger has described it as a "disastrous" decision, while Wayne
Rooney sees it as "welcome and important".

The Premier League's new rules on squad limits and home-grown quotas
comes in to effect this season,

From 1 September, teams must name a 25-man squad containing at least
eight 'home-grown' players, with any number of under-21s, regardless
of their nationality, allowed to supplement that squad.

A player is regarded as home-grown if he has spent 36 months or more
with a club associated with the English or Welsh FA before his 21st
birthday - or the end of the season during which he turns 21.

The rules have left a whole host of clubs, most notably the likes of
Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea, facing a fine balancing act in
the coming weeks.


ARSENAL

NON-HOME-GROWN: Manuel Almunia, Andrey Arshavin, Marouane Chamakh,
Abou Diaby, Emmanuel Eboue, Lukas Fabianski, Laurent Koscielny, Samir
Nasri, Tomas Rosicky, Bacary Sagna, Robin Van Persie, Thomas
Vermaelen.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Nicklas Bendtner, Gael Clichy, Denilson, Johan
Djourou, Cesc Fabregas, Vito Mannone, Alex Song.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Emmanuel Frimpong, Kieron Gibbs, Aaron Ramsay,
Wojciech Szczesny, Armand Traore, Theo Walcott, Jack Wilshere, Carlos
Vela.


ASTON VILLA

NON-HOME-GROWN: Habib Beye, Carlos Cuellar, John Carew, Brad Friedel,
Brad Guzan, Stiliyan Petrov, Moustapha Salifou.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Gabriel Agbonlahor, James Collins, Curtis Davies,
Stewart Downing, Richard Dunne, Emile Heskey, James Milner, Isaiah
Osbourne, Nigel Reo-Coker, Steve Sidwell, Stephen Warnock, Ashley
Young, Luke Young.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Marc Albrighton, Barry Bannan, Ciaran Clark,
Nathan Delfouneso, Fabian Delph, Jonathan Hogg, Eric Lichaj, Andreas
Weimann.


BIRMINGHAM

NON-HOME-GROWN: Barry Ferguson, James McFadden, Michel, Garry
O'Connor, Nikola Zigic.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Marcus Bent, Lee Bowyer, Steve Carr, Scott Dann,
Colin Doyle, Keith Fahey, Ben Foster, Craig Gardner, Cameron Jerome,
Roger Johnson, Sebastian Larsson, David Murphy, Stuart Parnaby, Kevin
Phillips, Liam Ridgewell, Maik Taylor.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Fraser Kerr, Jordan Mutch, James O'Shea, Nathan
Redmond. Enric Valles.


BLACKPOOL

NON-HOME-GROWN: Charlie Adam, Stephen Crainey, Elliott Grandin, Dekel
Keinan, Ludovic Sylvestre.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Alex Baptiste, Billy Clarke, Danny Coid, Rob
Edwards, Jason Euell, Ian Evatt, Matthew Gilks, Marlon Harewood, Brett
Ormerod, Paul Rachubka, Keith Southern, Gary Taylor-Fletcher, David
Vaughan.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Louis Almond, Craig Cathcart, Ishmel Demontagnac,
Neal Eardley, Ashley Eastham, Mark Halstead, Stephen Husband, Malaury
Martin.


BOLTON

NON-HOME-GROWN: Marcos Alonso, Adam Bogdan, Lee Chung-Yong, Tamir
Cohen, Johan Elmander, Ricardo Gardner, Stuart Holden, Jussi
Jaaskelainen, Ivan Klasnic, Martin Petrov, Mustapha Riga, Gretar
Steinsson.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Chris Basham, Robbie Blake, Gary Cahill, Kevin
Davies, Mark Davies, Sean Davis, Zat Knight, Fabrice Muamba, Andy
O'Brien, Joey O'Brien, Paul Robinson, Sam Ricketts, J'Lloyd Samuel,
Danny Shittu, Matt Taylor.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Temitope Abadeyi, Rob Lainton, Dan Ward.


CHELSEA

NON-HOME-GROWN: Alex, Nicolas Anelka, Yossi Benayoun, Jose Bosingwa,
Petr Cech, Dider Drogba, Michael Essien, Paulo Ferreira, Henrique
Hilario, Branislav Ivanovic, Salomon Kalou, Florent Malouda, Nemanja
Matic, Jon Obi Mikel, Yury Zhirkov.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard, Michael Mancienne, John
Terry, Ross Turnbull.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Fabio Borini, Franco di Santo, Gael Kakuta, Tomas
Kalas, Josh McEachran, Daniel Sturridge.


EVERTON

NON-HOME-GROWN: Mikel Arteta, Diniyar Bilyaletdinov, Sylvain Distin,
Marouane Fellaini, John Heitinga, Tim Howard, Jan Mucha, Steven
Pienaar, Louis Saha, Ayegbeni Yakubu, Joseph Yobo.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Victor Anichebe, Leighton Baines, Jermaine
Beckford, Tim Cahill, Tony Hibbert, Phil Jagielka, Phil Neville, Leon
Osman, Iain Turner, James Vaughan.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Kieran Agard, Jose Baxter, Seamas Coleman, Shane
Duffy, Magaye Gueye, Jack Rodwell, Joao Silva, James Wallace.


FULHAM

FOREIGN: Clint Dempsey, Kagisho Dikgacoi, David Elm, Zoltan Gera,
Brede Hangeland, Eddie Johnson, Diomansy Kamara, John Pantsil, Bjorn
Helge Riise, Mark Schwartzer, Fredrik Storr, Pascal Zuberbuhler.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Chris Baird, Simon Davies, Damien Duff, Dickson
Etuhu, Jonathan Greening, Aaron Hughes, Stephen Kelly, Paul Konchesky,
Andy Johnson, Robert Milsom, Danny Murphy, Philippe Senderos, David
Stockdale, Bobby Zamora.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Matthew Briggs, Neil Etheridge, Keanu Marsh-Brown,
Matthew Saunders, Alex Smith.


LIVERPOOL

NON-HOME-GROWN: Daniel Agger, Alberto Aquilani, Fabio Aurelio, Ryan
Babel, Diego Cavalieri, Milan Jovanovic, Dirk Kuyt, Sotiros Kyrgiakos,
Lucas, Javier Mascherano, Damien Plessis, Christian Poulsen, Pepe
Reina, Maxi Rodriguez, Martin Skrtel, Fernando Torres.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Jamie Carragher, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Glen
Johnson.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Daniel Ayala, Laurie Dalla Valle, Stephen Darby,
Nabil El Zhar, Peter Gulacsi, Emiliano Insua, Steven Irwin, Martin
Kelly, Krisztian Nemeth, David Ngog, Jonjo Shelvey, Jay Spearing,
Danny Wilson.


MAN CITY

NON-HOME-GROWN: Emmanuel Adebayor, Jerome Boateng, Felipe Caicedo,
Nigel De Jong, David Gonzales, Jo, Aleksandar Kolarov, Vincent
Kompany, Robinho, Roque Santa Cruz, David Silva, Carlos Tevez, Kolo
Toure, Yaya Toure, Patrick Vieira, Pablo Zabaleta.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Gareth Barry, Craig Bellamy, Wayne Bridge, Kelvin
Etuhu, Shay Given, Joe Hart, Stephen Ireland, Adam Johnson, Michael
Johnson, Joleon Lescott, Micah Richards, Stuart Taylor, Shaun
Wright-Phillips.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Dedryck Boyata, Greg Cunningham, Alex Henshall,
Abdisalam Ibrahim, Shaleum Logan, Alex Nimely, Albert Rusnak, Javan
Vidal.


MAN UNITED

NON-HOME-GROWN: Anderson, Dimitar Berbatov, Patrice Evra, Owen
Hargreaves, Javier Hernandez, Tomasz Kuszczak, Nani, Ji-sung Park,
Edwin Van der Sar, Antonio Valencia, Nemanja Vidic.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Wes Brown, Michael Carrick, Jonny Evans, Rio
Ferdinand, Darren Fletcher, Darron Gibson, Ryan Giggs, Gary Neville,
John O'Shea, Michael Owen, Wayne Rooney, Paul Scholes.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Ben Amos, Bebe, Tom Cleverley, Fabio da Silva,
Rafael da Silva, Ritchie De Laet, Corry Evans, Federico Macheda,
Gabriel Obertan, Chris Smalling.


NEWCASTLE

NON-HOME-GROWN: Fabricio Coloccini, Jose Enrique, Jonas Gutierrez,
Peter Lovenkrands.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Shola Ameobi, Joey Barton, Leon Best, Sol Campbell,
Fraser Forster, Danny Guthrie, Steve Harper, Tim Krul, Kevin Nolan,
James Perch, Wayne Routledge, Danny Simpson, Alan Smith, Ryan Taylor,
Steven Taylor, Mike Williamson.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Andy Carroll, Ryan Donaldson, Shane Ferguson, Dan
Gosling, Tamas Kadar, Nile Ranger, Haris Vuckic.


STOKE CITY

NON-HOME-GROWN: Abdoulaye Faye, Ricardo Fuller, Kenwyne Jones, Thomas
Sorensen, Mamady Sidibe, Sanli Tuncay.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: James Beattie, Asmir Begovic, Danny Collins, Andrew
Davies, Rory Delap, Carl Dickinson, Matthew Etherington, Danny
Higginbotham, Robert Huth, Dave Kitson, Liam Lawrence, Carlo Nash,
Danny Pugh, Ryan Shawcross, Tom Soares, Michael Tonge, Glenn Whelan,
Dean Whitehead, Andy Wilkinson.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Florent Cuvelier, Danzelle St Louis-Hamilton,
Matthew Lund, Ben Marshall, Ryan Shotton, Nathaniel Wedderburn.



SUNDERLAND

NON-HOME-GROWN: Ahmed Al-Muhammadi, Marcos Angeleri, Paulo Da Silva,
Craig Gordan, Steed Malbranque, John Mensah, Simon Mignolet, Christian
Riveros, Boudewijn Zenden.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Phil Bardlsey, Darren Bent, Titus Bramble, Fraizer
Campbell, Trevor Carson, Lee Cattermole, Anton Ferdinand, David Healy,
Matthew Kilgallon, George McCartney, Nedum Onuoha, Andy Reid, Kieran
Richardson, Michael Turner, Martyn Waghorn.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Jack Colback, Jordan Henderson, David Meyler, Ryan
Noble.


SPURS

NON-HOME-GROWN: Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Sebastien Bassong, Vedran
Corluka, Carlo Cudicini, Heurelho Gomes, Alan Hutton, Younes Kaboul,
Niko Kranjcar, Luka Modric, Wilson Palacios, Roman Pavlyuchenko.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: David Bentley, Peter Crouch, Michael Dawson,
Jermain Defoe, Dorian Dervite, Tom Huddlestone, Jermaine Jenas, Robbie
Keane, Ledley King, Aaron Lennon, Jamie O'Hara, Kyle Naughton,
Jonathan Woodgate.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Gareth Bale, Giovani dos Santos, Kyle Walker, Jake
Livermore, Ryan Mason, Jonathan Obika, Danny Rose, Sandro, Andros
Townsend.


WEST BROM

NON-HOME-GROWN: Roman Bednar, Marek Cech, Graham Dorrans, Pablo
Ibanez, Gonzalo Jara, Abdoulaye Meite, Youssouf Mulumbu, Jonas Olsson,
Gabriel Tamas, Gianni Zuiverloon.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Giles Barnes, Leon Barnett, Chris Brunt, Scott
Carson, Luke Moore, Ishamel Miller, James Morrison, Boaz Myhill,
Reuben Reid, Steven Reid, Nicky Shorey, Jerome Thomas


SELECTED UNDER-21s: Kayleden Brown, Simon Cox, Paul Downing, Lateef
Elford-Alliyu, Sam Mantom, Joe Mattock, Romaine Sawyers, George
Thorne, Chris Wood.


WEST HAM

NON-HOME-GROWN: Pablo Barrera, Valon Behrami, Tal Ben Haim, Manuel Da
Costa, Fabio Daprela, Alessandro Diamanti, Julien Faubert, Thomas
Hitzlsperger, Herita Illunga, Radoslav Kovac, Peter Kurucz, Benni
McCarthy, Luis Boa Morte, Frederic Piquionne, Winston Reid.


SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Carlton Cole, Kieron Dyer, Danny Gabbidon, Rob
Green, Mark Noble, Scott Parker, Jonathan Spector, Matthew Upson.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Jack Collison, Zavon Hines, Frank Nouble, Freddie
Sears, Jordan Spence, Junior Stansilas, Marek Stech, James Tomkins.


WIGAN

NON-HOME-GROWN: Antolin Alcaraz, Ali Al Habsi, Antonio Amaya, Mauro
Boselli, Mohamed Diame, Maynor Figueroa, Steve Gohouri, Jordi Gomez,
Cho Won Hee, James McArthur, Daniel De Ridder, Hugo Rodallega, Jason
Scotland, Ronnie Stam, Hendry Thomas.


SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Emmerson Boyce, Gary Caldwell, Chris Kirkland,
Charles N'Zogbia, Mike Pollitt, Ben Watson.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: James McCarthy, Callum McManaman, Joe Holt, Victor
Moses, Jordan Mustoe, Jonathan Routledge.


WOLVES

NON-HOME-GROWN: Christophe Berra, Jelle Van Damme, Kevin Doyle, Steven
Fletcher, Adlene Guedioura, Marcus Hahnemann, Nenad Milijas, Steven
Mouyokolo, Geoffrey Mujangi Bia, Stephen Ward, Ronald Zubar.

SENIOR HOME-GROWN: Jody Craddock, Sylvan Ebanks-Blake, David Edwards,
George Elokobi, Kevin Foley, Greg Halford, Wayne Hennessey, Karl
Henry, Matthew Hill, Stephen Hunt, Carl Ikeme, Matt Jarvis, David
Jones, Michael Kightly, Andy Keogh, Matt Murray, Richard Stearman.

SELECTED UNDER-21s: Ashley Hemmings, Scott Malone, Nathaniel
Mendez-Laing.

RED DEVIL
From: Bruce D. Scott on 13 Aug 2010 11:51
RED DEVIL (manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net) wrote:

: The rules have left a whole host of clubs, most notably the likes of
: Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea, facing a fine balancing act in
: the coming weeks.

Man City look all right by your list... Arsenal and Wigan look bad, as
will Chelsea when JT and FL retire.


--
ciao,
Bruce

drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
From: RED DEVIL on 13 Aug 2010 14:20
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:51:34 +0000 (UTC), bds(a)ipp-garching.mpg.de
(Bruce D. Scott) wrote:

>RED DEVIL (manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net) wrote:
>
>: The rules have left a whole host of clubs, most notably the likes of
>: Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea, facing a fine balancing act in
>: the coming weeks.
>
>Man City look all right by your list... Arsenal and Wigan look bad, as
>will Chelsea when JT and FL retire.

The problem City may have is many of their players have only recently
joined them, but I agree they should be ok.

RED DEVIL
From: Manx Gunner on 13 Aug 2010 16:00
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:08:35 -0400, RED DEVIL wrote...

> The rules have left a whole host of clubs, most notably the likes of
> Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea, facing a fine balancing act in
> the coming weeks.

MAN CITY
SENIOR HOME-GROWN: 13

MAN UNITED
SENIOR HOME-GROWN: 12

....and you're singling Manchester City out why, exactly?
From: Jim Goloboy on 13 Aug 2010 16:05
On Aug 13, 4:00 pm, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:08:35 -0400, RED DEVIL wrote...
> > The rules have left a whole host of clubs, most notably the likes of
> > Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea, facing a fine balancing act in
> > the coming weeks.
>
> MAN CITY
> SENIOR HOME-GROWN: 13
>
> MAN UNITED
> SENIOR HOME-GROWN: 12
>
> ...and you're singling Manchester City out why, exactly?

RD hasn't figured out the practice of providing links yet:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/8902975.stm

The problem for Man City isn't the home-grown rule, it's the squad
limit. 29 senior players listed and probably Balotelli and Milner
still to arrive.
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