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From: SHUSSBAR on 5 Jun 2010 13:37
On Jun 4, 6:08 pm, gsn <gsnaraya...(a)ymail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 6:43 pm, "Adama" <s...(a)invalid.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "gsn" <gsnaraya...(a)ymail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > 78c3885f-188e-4494-b3f0-99ff69932...(a)y21g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >     Thierre Henry was involved in a goal mouth melee in the Chineses
> > > penalty box. Henry tried to kick the ball over a Chinese defender's
> > > head towards the goal. A second Chinese defender (sorry, do not know
> > > the names) and the goal keeper converged on the ball to clear it away..
> > > In the process, the Chinese defender pushed the away with his hand!
> > >    The referee did not notice this and the game continues! The TV
> > > announcer showed a couple of replays which showed clear handling of
> > > the ball, and commented on the irony!
> > > Thierre was denied a penalty.
> > >    I think it was at the 87' and France were down by one goal and the
> > > game ended 1-0 China.
>
> > Not sure it would be penalty, it didn't look deliberate at all..
> > But if the irish are satisfied with this "justice", then it's fine by me.
>
>  Admittedly it was a border line case, some referees would have
> awarded a penalty.
> But it appeared the referee did not even notice it, he was looking at
> the player who had been tripped down.
>
> It was ofcourse partial "justice" (losing to China) ,  not full
> justice as it happened only in a friendly!
>
> - gsn

It s part the Domenech tactics. A sort win vs Costa Rica, a tie vs
Tunisia, a good defeat vs China. Then crawling miserably to the second
round with 2D, 1W even with 1D, 1L, 1W, then increase in 1/8 and 1/4
with 2 1-0 win, a miracle in 1/2 with a PK win after extra time and
the cherry on the cake, the final where C.Ron headbutts Gourcuff, and
we win 1-0 vs Portugal .
From: Chagney Hunt on 5 Jun 2010 13:54
On Jun 5, 1:37 pm, SHUSSBAR <shuss...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 6:08 pm, gsn <gsnaraya...(a)ymail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 4, 6:43 pm, "Adama" <s...(a)invalid.com> wrote:
>
> > > "gsn" <gsnaraya...(a)ymail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > > 78c3885f-188e-4494-b3f0-99ff69932...(a)y21g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > >     Thierre Henry was involved in a goal mouth melee in the Chineses
> > > > penalty box. Henry tried to kick the ball over a Chinese defender's
> > > > head towards the goal. A second Chinese defender (sorry, do not know
> > > > the names) and the goal keeper converged on the ball to clear it away.
> > > > In the process, the Chinese defender pushed the away with his hand!
> > > >    The referee did not notice this and the game continues! The TV
> > > > announcer showed a couple of replays which showed clear handling of
> > > > the ball, and commented on the irony!
> > > > Thierre was denied a penalty.
> > > >    I think it was at the 87' and France were down by one goal and the
> > > > game ended 1-0 China.
>
> > > Not sure it would be penalty, it didn't look deliberate at all..
> > > But if the irish are satisfied with this "justice", then it's fine by me.
>
> >  Admittedly it was a border line case, some referees would have
> > awarded a penalty.
> > But it appeared the referee did not even notice it, he was looking at
> > the player who had been tripped down.
>
> > It was ofcourse partial "justice" (losing to China) ,  not full
> > justice as it happened only in a friendly!
>
> > - gsn
>
> It s part the Domenech tactics. A sort win vs Costa Rica, a tie vs
> Tunisia, a good defeat vs China. Then crawling miserably to the second
> round with 2D, 1W even with 1D, 1L, 1W, then increase in 1/8 and 1/4
> with 2 1-0 win, a miracle in 1/2 with a PK win after extra time and
> the cherry on the cake, the final where C.Ron headbutts Gourcuff, and
> we win 1-0 vs Portugal .

:-) You were probably joking, but it's truer than many realize.
France's problem is to get through the group stage. After that their
uber timid style can annoy and upset anyone. Anyone still rememer
France - Spain in '06?
From: El Kot on 5 Jun 2010 14:02
SHUSSBAR wrote:
> On Jun 4, 6:08 pm, gsn <gsnaraya...(a)ymail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It was ofcourse partial "justice" (losing to China) , not full
>> justice as it happened only in a friendly!
>
> It s part the Domenech tactics. A sort win vs Costa Rica, a tie vs
> Tunisia, a good defeat vs China. Then crawling miserably to the second
> round with 2D, 1W even with 1D, 1L, 1W, then increase in 1/8 and 1/4
> with 2 1-0 win, a miracle in 1/2 with a PK win after extra time and
> the cherry on the cake, the final where C.Ron headbutts Gourcuff, and
> we win 1-0 vs Portugal .

Yeah, but what happens if Portugal fail to reach the Final? What if
it's Argentina, and Ribery stomps on Mascherano (for lack of Lisandro)?
Buh-bye WC then!

--
No, no, you can't e-mail me with the nono.
From: jvazquez on 5 Jun 2010 14:28
On 4 jun, 20:53, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
>
> The only thing to be sorry about is the disgraceful behavior of those who
> deny, despite overwhelming evidence, that Given (the Irish goal keeper) took
> Anelka down in the box minutes before Henry handled the ball:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_vo8OwMBTs
>
> Anybody is free to spin anything any which way they want, but the evidence
> is what it is: Given cheated, then disgracefully gestured to the ref he
> hadn't touched Anelka, then remained quiet while the Irish FA and the anglo
> media made asses of themselves.

Could be, although I still had a tiny doubt if Given actually made
Anelka fall.

But the hand of Henry was blatantly politically incorrect, whereas the
penalty by Given, not called, was kind of part of the game. A sort of
common mistake by the ref.

JV






From: Bob on 5 Jun 2010 18:13
jvazquez(a)semavenca.com wrote:
> On 4 jun, 20:53, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote:
>>
>> The only thing to be sorry about is the disgraceful behavior of
>> those who
>> deny, despite overwhelming evidence, that Given (the Irish goal
>> keeper) took
>> Anelka down in the box minutes before Henry handled the
>> ball: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_vo8OwMBTs
>>
>> Anybody is free to spin anything any which way they want, but the
>> evidence
>> is what it is: Given cheated, then disgracefully gestured to the ref
>> he
>> hadn't touched Anelka, then remained quiet while the Irish FA and
>> the anglo
>> media made asses of themselves.
>
> Could be, although I still had a tiny doubt if Given actually made
> Anelka fall.
>
> But the hand of Henry was blatantly politically incorrect, whereas the
> penalty by Given, not called, was kind of part of the game. A sort of
> common mistake by the ref.

The ref not calling the pk is another issue entirely. I am only talking
about the hollier-than-thou attitude of some Irish who had the gall to ask
for a replay when the Irish team cheated first, and the outrageous
witch-hunt against Henry and the French in a media that didn't even bother
to do it's job (note that I am being nice in assuming that it wasn't
deliberate manipulation of the public), and the sheepish fans who gobble-up
everything that is spoon fed to them. BTW, what was Henry suposed to do?
bend over, grab his ankles and take it like a man?


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