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From: nigel on 19 Jan 2010 05:12 As typical with nulab legislation it abolishes presumption of innocence, it means your broadband costs will rise by about �30 per year, it's probably a violation of human rights (as we might find five years down the line if anyone challenges it in Europe) and worst of all it has been instigated by Deripaska's rent-boy, Peter Mandelcunt, so you can bet your life it's not for the benefit of Britain or the British. This is a link to a TalkTalk campaign: http://www.dontdisconnect.us/ and here is a direct link to the petition: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/dontdisconnectus/ Evil Nigel
From: Joe Horowitz on 19 Jan 2010 09:08 "nigel" <useweb(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:l5SdnYUrOLE3GMjWnZ2dnUVZ7r5i4p2d(a)brightview.co.uk... > As typical with nulab legislation it abolishes presumption of innocence, > it means your broadband costs will rise by about �30 per year, it's > probably a violation of human rights (as we might find five years down > the line if anyone challenges it in Europe) and worst of all it has been > instigated by Deripaska's rent-boy, Peter Mandelcunt, so you can bet > your life it's not for the benefit of Britain or the British. Never mind all that. What I, and really, if we're honest, everyone else wants to know, is will it infringe on our basic human right to illegally download any album or film that we want without paying for it? If so, it's a worrying development indeed. -- Joe "I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
From: nigel on 19 Jan 2010 10:17 Joe Horowitz wrote: > "nigel" <useweb(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > news:l5SdnYUrOLE3GMjWnZ2dnUVZ7r5i4p2d(a)brightview.co.uk... > >>As typical with nulab legislation it abolishes presumption of innocence, >>it means your broadband costs will rise by about �30 per year, it's >>probably a violation of human rights (as we might find five years down >>the line if anyone challenges it in Europe) and worst of all it has been >>instigated by Deripaska's rent-boy, Peter Mandelcunt, so you can bet >>your life it's not for the benefit of Britain or the British. > > > Never mind all that. What I, and really, if we're honest, everyone else > wants to know, is will it infringe on our basic human right to illegally > download any album or film that we want without paying for it? If so, it's > a worrying development indeed. > That doesn't matter, they'll be able to disconnect you just for using file sharing and it will be up to you to prove that you weren't downloading illegal content. And you'll have to pay �2 or so per month for the privilege of having them spy on you. Unless you piggyback in using a wifi hotspot, of course.
From: Joe Horowitz on 19 Jan 2010 10:39 "nigel" <useweb(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:Z6mdnap3zudrUcjWnZ2dnUVZ8gSdnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk... > Joe Horowitz wrote: >> Never mind all that. What I, and really, if we're honest, everyone else >> wants to know, is will it infringe on our basic human right to illegally >> download any album or film that we want without paying for it? If so, >> it's a worrying development indeed. >> > > That doesn't matter, they'll be able to disconnect you just for using file > sharing and it will be up to you to prove that you weren't downloading > illegal content. And you'll have to pay �2 or so per month for the > privilege of having them spy on you. Unless you piggyback in using a wifi > hotspot, of course. Honestly speaking, I can't see that it'll be in the commercial interests of the ISP's to go around disconnecting people willy-nilly. My guess is that they'll pay lipservice to the government in signing up to all these schemes and whatnot, then actually disconnect as few people as they can possibly get away with. ISP's don't give a stuff if you download stuff illegally, so long as you do it on their network and pay your bills on time. It's really not their problem. -- Joe "I am the fat puddin', but a single puddingness" - Vicky Conlan
From: nigel on 20 Jan 2010 07:04
Joe Horowitz wrote: > > Honestly speaking, I can't see that it'll be in the commercial interests of > the ISP's to go around disconnecting people willy-nilly. My guess is that > they'll pay lipservice to the government in signing up to all these schemes > and whatnot, then actually disconnect as few people as they can possibly get > away with. ISP's don't give a stuff if you download stuff illegally, so > long as you do it on their network and pay your bills on time. It's really > not their problem. > I would agree and I hope you're right but it won't be the ISPs doing the chasing. They will be legally required to hand over the data they collect (at YOUR expense) to the likes of poor, starving Simon Cowell. FWIW I've downloaded a few pr0n films but to the best of my knowledge they were made by now defunct studios and so the copyright owners no longer exist. Evil Nigel |