From: Abubakr on
On Jul 8, 6:08 pm, Mart van de Wege <mvdw...(a)mail.com> wrote:
> Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenb...(a)hpl.hp.com> writes:
>
> <snip>
>
> > For those who haven't done it, keep in mind that it's absolutely
> > critical that the AR (1) be lined up *precisely* with the (moving)
> > offside line, (2) be looking down a line precisely parallel to the
> > goal line, and (3) be looking directly at the ball to tell when it was
> > last played by a teammate.
>
> > (2) and (3) are, of course, impossible to do at the same time, and (1)
> > and (3) are impossible to do at the same time if the defender is
> > moving (even if it's just his upper body that's moving).  And if
> > you're willing to trust your ears as to when (3) happened, you have to
> > take into account that the sound takes a tenth of a second to go 37
> > yards, while what you're looking at is instantaneous.  So you have to
> > listen and decide "Was he offside a tenth of a second ago?"
>
> I've been wondering if the following wouldn't work better:
>
> 1. The AR stays on the offside line, and concentrates on the players
>    only.
>
> 2. The AR always raises the flag when he sees an offside, no matter what
>    the ball is doing nor the position of the offside player.
>
> 3. The referee is already watching the ball. As soon as it is passed
>    forward, he glances at the AR to see if there's a flag up. If yes,
>    then he calls for offside if he decides there's a player profiting
>    from that position.

But the referee wouldn't necessarily know for which player(s) the flag
was raised and thus won't be able to judge who is and is not passively
in an onside position.

From: Mart van de Wege on
Abubakr <deltarasha(a)gmail.com> writes:

> On Jul 8, 6:08 pm, Mart van de Wege <mvdw...(a)mail.com> wrote:
<snip>
>> I've been wondering if the following wouldn't work better:
>>
>> 1. The AR stays on the offside line, and concentrates on the players
>>    only.
>>
>> 2. The AR always raises the flag when he sees an offside, no matter what
>>    the ball is doing nor the position of the offside player.
>>
>> 3. The referee is already watching the ball. As soon as it is passed
>>    forward, he glances at the AR to see if there's a flag up. If yes,
>>    then he calls for offside if he decides there's a player profiting
>>    from that position.
>
> But the referee wouldn't necessarily know for which player(s) the flag
> was raised and thus won't be able to judge who is and is not passively
> in an onside position.
>
I thought of that, yes. That is the weak spot in what I propose.

Then again, the AR often isn't in a good position to judge that either.

Mart

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