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From: Bellende Belhamel on
Darth Simian wrote:
> On 12 July, 21:27, Aaron <a...(a)home.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:02:47 -0700 (PDT), Darth Simian
>>
>>
>>
>> <great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 12 July, 16:02, ptk1071 <billarn...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 10, 3:14 am, Darth Simian
>>
>>>> <great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> A masonic initiation ritual intended to scare new members went
>>>>> tragically wrong when a gun firing blanks was accidentally swapped for
>>>>> one with live ammunition.
>>
>>>>> As members of the Southside Masonic Lodge in Patchogue, New York
>>>>> looked on, novice William James was shot dead when one of the inner
>>>>> circle fired the wrong gun.
>>
>>>>> Albert 'Pike' Eid, 76, who had a starting pistol in one pocket and a
>>>>> loaded .32 calibre gun in the other, was meant to "shoot" the fake as
>>>>> a pile of tin cans was toppled to startle Mr James. Instead he reached
>>>>> into the wrong pocket and shot the 47-year-old father of two in the
>>>>> head.
>>
>>>>> Other masons called the police who arrested Mr Eid for second degree
>>>>> manslaughter. He was later freed on �1,500 bail.
>>
>>>>> A police spokesman said the 10 people at the ritual were "quite
>>>>> stunned" as Mr James slumped dead in a chair. His widow, Wendy, said
>>>>> those present refused to say what had happened. "They can at least
>>>>> tell me, 'I'm sorry.' They were supposed to be Bill's brothers. Well
>>>>> brothers don't treat brothers that way."
>>
>>>>> Mr James was being inducted into the Mason's Fellowcraft Club. Other
>>>>> lodge rituals included snapping rat traps in the faces of initiates
>>>>> and forcing them to walk a plank. The temple also had a guillotine in
>>>>> a basement.
>>
>>>>> The Grand Lodge said guns were not normally used in its rituals.
>>>>> --
>>
>>>> KOOKERY SNIPPED!
>>
>>>> Well another epic fail Monkey Boy. This 'accident' happened in 2004.
>>>> The Grand Lodge did not say that guns are not normally used in
>>>> rituals, they said "guns are NOT used in rituals". Well so much for
>>>> Monkey Boys honesty. Really? Adding Pike to the individual's name who
>>>> caused the man's death accidentally?
>>
>>> Accidents don�t happen, they are caused. And I do not believe it was
>>> an accident.
>>
>> DS, that is an extremely stupid statement. Accidents happen. Some
>> might have been prevented, but if they were intentional they would not
>> be accidents. There is no rational reason for your supposed belief
>> that this was not an accident; so you are either insane or a liar,
>> maybe both.
>>
> I�m stupid? Did the lodge perform a risk assessment for a ritual
> involving a loaded and unloaded gun? Lol. Do you still claim Masons
> are so much smarter than the rest of us plebs?

Welll just because accidents have a cause, doesn`t mean that they are
caused.
So to me, you sound very stupid. And the person using a real gun, even with
blanks,
sounds stupid to me too.
But basically, people are stupid. ;o)


From: Pakistan Meteorological Department on
Bellende Belhamel wrote:
> Darth Simian wrote:
>
>>On 12 July, 21:27, Aaron <a...(a)home.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:02:47 -0700 (PDT), Darth Simian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 12 July, 16:02, ptk1071 <billarn...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Jul 10, 3:14 am, Darth Simian
>>>
>>>>><great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>A masonic initiation ritual intended to scare new members went
>>>>>>tragically wrong when a gun firing blanks was accidentally swapped for
>>>>>>one with live ammunition.
>>>
>>>>>>As members of the Southside Masonic Lodge in Patchogue, New York
>>>>>>looked on, novice William James was shot dead when one of the inner
>>>>>>circle fired the wrong gun.
>>>
>>>>>>Albert 'Pike' Eid, 76, who had a starting pistol in one pocket and a
>>>>>>loaded .32 calibre gun in the other, was meant to "shoot" the fake as
>>>>>>a pile of tin cans was toppled to startle Mr James. Instead he reached
>>>>>>into the wrong pocket and shot the 47-year-old father of two in the
>>>>>>head.
>>>
>>>>>>Other masons called the police who arrested Mr Eid for second degree
>>>>>>manslaughter. He was later freed on �1,500 bail.
>>>
>>>>>>A police spokesman said the 10 people at the ritual were "quite
>>>>>>stunned" as Mr James slumped dead in a chair. His widow, Wendy, said
>>>>>>those present refused to say what had happened. "They can at least
>>>>>>tell me, 'I'm sorry.' They were supposed to be Bill's brothers. Well
>>>>>>brothers don't treat brothers that way."
>>>
>>>>>>Mr James was being inducted into the Mason's Fellowcraft Club. Other
>>>>>>lodge rituals included snapping rat traps in the faces of initiates
>>>>>>and forcing them to walk a plank. The temple also had a guillotine in
>>>>>>a basement.
>>>
>>>>>>The Grand Lodge said guns were not normally used in its rituals.
>>>>>>--
>>>
>>>>>KOOKERY SNIPPED!
>>>
>>>>>Well another epic fail Monkey Boy. This 'accident' happened in 2004.
>>>>>The Grand Lodge did not say that guns are not normally used in
>>>>>rituals, they said "guns are NOT used in rituals". Well so much for
>>>>>Monkey Boys honesty. Really? Adding Pike to the individual's name who
>>>>>caused the man's death accidentally?
>>>
>>>>Accidents don�t happen, they are caused. And I do not believe it was
>>>>an accident.
>>>
>>>DS, that is an extremely stupid statement. Accidents happen. Some
>>>might have been prevented, but if they were intentional they would not
>>>be accidents. There is no rational reason for your supposed belief
>>>that this was not an accident; so you are either insane or a liar,
>>>maybe both.
>>>
>>
>>I�m stupid? Did the lodge perform a risk assessment for a ritual
>>involving a loaded and unloaded gun? Lol. Do you still claim Masons
>>are so much smarter than the rest of us plebs?
>
>
> Welll just because accidents have a cause, doesn`t mean that they are
> caused.
> So to me, you sound very stupid. And the person using a real gun, even with
> blanks,
> sounds stupid to me too.
> But basically, people are stupid. ;o)
>


It's no coincidence you're called Bellende at all is it?

Don't ever invite me to a cheese and wine gig.


--
"Entire units of the Metropolitan Police and the Flying Squad and the
drug squad were Freemasons. They all, in the end, were sent to prison.
When you are bonded by an oath of mutual defence and loyalty, you may
well find that it is extremely difficult to squeal on your corrupt brethren"

Martin Short on BBC Newsnight 19/03/01
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