From: Winston Smith, American Patriot on
On Jun 19, 3:29 pm, Clément <lcmello.lis...(a)terra.com.br> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 9:12 am, "Winston Smith, American Patriot" wrote:
>
>
>
> > The vuvuzelas got louder with the Japanese attack culminating in
> > Matsui shot-at-goal.
>
> > Is that for the Dutch or Japanese benefit?  South Africa has Dutch-
> > rooted population (Boers), but I don't really know if the Dutch are
> > despised or loved by the natives for that reason.
>
> I would assume the vuvuzelas would be an attempt to foil my attack,
> but others will see it differently.

At 88': it has to be said that despite the missed deflection for the
one goal, Kawashima has managed to avoid 3-0 by his defense
disappearing on him. Two excellent saves off of the attacking Dutch,
who should convert those if these are the knockout stages.

Of course, it is to be expected that his defense would disappear since
Okada has subbed for building up an offense that has produced very
little but a few scares.
From: Winston Smith, American Patriot on
On Jun 19, 3:29 pm, Clément <lcmello.lis...(a)terra.com.br> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 9:12 am, "Winston Smith, American Patriot" wrote:
>
>
>
> > The vuvuzelas got louder with the Japanese attack culminating in
> > Matsui shot-at-goal.
>
> > Is that for the Dutch or Japanese benefit?  South Africa has Dutch-
> > rooted population (Boers), but I don't really know if the Dutch are
> > despised or loved by the natives for that reason.
>
> I would assume the vuvuzelas would be an attempt to foil my attack,
> but others will see it differently.

Full time:

van Marwuk asked his players at the half if they could do the job of
getting one goal up without subbing anyone, and they delivered.

Nothing spectacular in the Dutch offense. Just making sure they get
the 6 points to move on.

Now Holland has the luxury of getting minutes for spare players next
week while Japan must get the win.
From: Mart van de Wege on
Abubakr <deltarasha(a)gmail.com> writes:

> On Jun 19, 10:19 pm, Mart van de Wege <mvdw...(a)mail.com> wrote:
>> anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> writes:
>> > Prediction: 3-1
>>
>> So far, Netherlands competent, but lacking drive and creativity.
>>
>> Elia showed promise against Denmark. I hope van Marwijk gives him
>> another chance.
>>
>> Japan shows good tactical discipline and a relatively positive forward
>> attitude.
>>
>> 0-0 if the Netherlands continues in this vein. If they manage a little
>> more drive, I'd say 2-0.
>>
>> Mart
>
> Holland looked much better in the first game once they got rid of Van
> Persie and Van der Vaart and put on wingers. They are pedestrian again
> with this same lineup.

Meh.

Fairly typical Dutch game: too many uninspiring passes square and
backwards; somehow it doesn't sink in in this country that possession
football is as boring as catenaccio.

Movement off the ball was virtually nonexistent either, meaning the
Japanese could easily shutdown midfield by good positioning.

Sneijder's goal created a little more space due to the Japanese pressing
forward, but the midfield and the front line did depressingly little
with it.

On the other hand, a rarity for a Dutch team, the defense was very
solid; something that can take us far in the knockout stages.

Mart

--
"We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes."
--- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.
From: Mart van de Wege on
"Winston Smith, American Patriot" <mavigozler(a)yahoo.com> writes:

>
> Now Holland has the luxury of getting minutes for spare players next
> week while Japan must get the win.

God I hope not. That was what killed us last time: van Basten playing
the second stringers, killing the rhythm of the first-string lineup.

Mart

--
"We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes."
--- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.
From: Winston Smith, American Patriot on
On Jun 19, 4:26 pm, Mart van de Wege <mvdw...(a)mail.com> wrote:
> "Winston Smith, American Patriot" <mavigoz...(a)yahoo.com> writes:
>
>
>
> > Now Holland has the luxury of getting minutes for spare players next
> > week while Japan must get the win.
>
> God I hope not. That was what killed us last time: van Basten playing
> the second stringers, killing the rhythm of the first-string lineup.
>
> Mart

I would not expect van Marwuk to start the 2nd string and only play
them, giving a complete one game break to the main players. I expect
he will start or bring in at times the primary attack to play at least
at total number of minutes equaling a half. I think he also wants to
know what sort of arrangements he can experiment with.

Group F has hardly sorted itself out. I'd be guessing that NED is
looking at Paraguay or Slovakia in the R16. I'd be guessing that
Paraguayans would test the Dutch defense slightly more. If Italy
finished 2nd in the group, how would van Marwuk take them on?