From: Karamako on
Insane Ranter wrote:
> 1966?

Greece won Euro 2004 playing a /sophisticated/ defence and winning 1-0 each
round.


From: Mark on
On Jul 18, 12:16 am, Insane Ranter <log...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> 1966?

Exactly! Home advantage, blatant gamesmanship in the semi-final, the
ball not crossing the line for the decisive "goal" in the final,
possibly (although as far as I know there isn't much evidence for
this) a refereeing conspiracy in the quarter-final, Antonio Rattin
(conspiracy or not) sent off for nothing in the quarter-final. Without
all those advantages there's no way England would have won it, as has
been proved by the fact that they've never reached the final of a
major tournament before or since.
From: Diabolik on

"Alkamista" <alkamista(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 17, 9:43 pm, "Diabolik" <Diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> "Clarkoo" <gabl...(a)yahoo.es> wrote in message
>
> news:c1d4fb41-aab7-4785-ad4e-7d8c48a36ca9(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 17, 9:30 am, "Karamako" <monsieur.karam...(a)nawadoo.fr> wrote:
>
> > Clarkoo wrote:
> > > In my lifetime Italy 2006 definetely and Brasil 94. I'm also told that
> > > Argentina 78 were pretty bad and they needed "an extra push" (if you
> > > know what I'm saying" to win that WC.
>
> You mean Spain were good this year? LOL
>
> I would say they were worst than Italy in the last WC.

> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Look at the stats;)

GF GA
Italy 12 2
Spain 8 2

From: Clarkoo on
On Jul 18, 3:32 am, "Paul C" <p...(a)thersgb.net> wrote:
> "Clarkoo" <gabl...(a)yahoo.es> wrote in message
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> news:f2377ff3-d823-4263-981c-d882747c7093(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >. I'm also told that
> > Argentina 78 were pretty bad
>
> Who told you that?

Jorge
From: higgs on
On Jul 18, 7:04 pm, Mark <Pammieshe...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jul 18, 12:16 am, Insane Ranter <log...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 1966?
>
>  Exactly! Home advantage, blatant gamesmanship in the semi-final, the
> ball not crossing the line for the decisive "goal" in the final,
> possibly (although as far as I know there isn't much evidence for
> this) a refereeing conspiracy in the quarter-final, Antonio Rattin
> (conspiracy or not) sent off for nothing in the quarter-final. Without
> all those advantages there's no way England would have won it, as has
> been proved by the fact that they've never reached the final of a
> major tournament before or since.

Argentina well deserved the epithet 'Animals' in that QF.
Rattin was simply the icing on the cake of a woefully cynical and
brutal Argentinian team in that tournament (and yes, I saw every
game).

The 'decisive' goal has long been held up to be an impossibility
because it was against the laws of physics for the ball to have hit
the bar and bounced down behind the line. The Germany match this time
around proved that this was indeed possible.

But anyway, please elaborate on the English 'gamesmanship' in the SF.
I assume you have seen the game?