From: Futbolmetrix on
"milivella" <milivella(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> AMR: Rosicky
>
> Out of position: 0. :(

Oh, come on....Stupid, stupid FM!

The offensive midfield line should have been:

AMR: Aquilani
AMC: Rosicky
AML: Robben




From: The Scrutineer on
>> Here's an easy one: Injury-prone XI (yeah, I could just pick the whole
>> Juve
>> line-up, but I'll try to do better):

I will try injury prone too, here's my XI

D R - Phil Degen
D C - John Woodgate
D C - Ledley King
D L - Kieran Gibbs
MC - Owen Hargraeves
MC - - David Dunn
AM R- Kieron Dyer
M C - Jimmy Bullard
AM L - Harry Kewell
F C - Robin van Persie

Assuming we only use current players!!!

From: milivella on
Futbolmetrix:

> "milivella" <milive...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:ca8f209a-9f94-447b-a194-2c68b4739690(a)e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
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>
>
> >> AMR: Rosicky
>
> > Out of position: 0. :(
>
> Oh, come on....Stupid, stupid FM!

No, stupid milivella's rules! FM have Rosicky quite settled on the
right (70%), but I've stated that he should be counted as 0. :(

Another stupid rule is multiplying skill * overall_value. Let's assume
that a great player who is good at passing is a better dribbler than a
mediocre player who is good at passing... but *neither* a loyal great
player is more loyal than a loyal mediocre player, *nor* an injury-
prone great player has more injuries that a injury-prone mediocre
player! The only way to make sense of it is to think that you are
trying to set up a team of _great_ loyal o injury-prone players. Weak,
I know, but let's say so:
"Your goal is to set up a 4-2-3-1 (no goalkeeper) such that all the
players are very good *both generally and* in a particular skill."

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milivella
From: milivella on
The Scrutineer:

> >> Here's an easy one: Injury-prone XI (yeah, I could just pick the whole
> >> Juve
> >> line-up, but I'll try to do better):
>
> I will try injury prone too, here's my XI

I guess that you haven't tried to pick *great* injury-prone players
but just very injury-prone players, since the rules weren't clear. Of
course your fault at all, so let's do in the following way: we'll have
two ranking, one based on skill only, one on skill*greatness. Sorry,
it was my fault, and I know that is just a patch, but it's hopefully
better than nothing.

Here are the scores of your players (the first one is skill*greatness,
the second one is skill only)

> D R - Phil Degen

0.63 1.00

> D C - John Woodgate

0.67 0.85

> D C - Ledley King

0.77 1.00

> D L - Kieran Gibbs

0.22 0.35

> MC - Owen Hargraeves

0.46 0.55

> MC - - David Dunn

Out of position: 0.00 :(

> AM R- Kieron Dyer

0.64 0.90

> M C - Jimmy Bullard

0.32 0.45

> AM L - Harry Kewell

0.60 0.80

> F C - Robin van Persie

0.66 0.80

Total:

4.97 6.70

Before posting the ranking, I've to compute the "skill only" score of
Daniele's team:

0.90 Zebina
0.75 Agger
0.95 Nesta
0.75 Chivu
0.90 C. Zanetti
0.35 Mohammed Sissoko (Juve)
0.00 Rosicky
0.60 Joe Cole
0.75 Robben
0.65 Iaquinta

6.60 Total

So the rankings are:

Skill*Greatness
5.44 Futbolmetrix Injury Proneness
4.97 The Scrutineer Injury Proneness

Skill only
6.70 The Scrutineer Injury Proneness
6.60 Futbolmetrix Injury Proneness

> Assuming we only use current players!!!

Yes we do. Sorry, I had to specify it.

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From: milivella on
milivella:

(Too many errors... I should stop posting!)

> Another stupid rule is multiplying skill * overall_value. Let's assume
> that a great player who is good at passing is a better

passer (!)

> than a
> mediocre player who is good at passing... but *neither* a loyal great
> player is more loyal than a loyal mediocre player, *nor* an injury-
> prone great player has more injuries that a injury-prone mediocre
> player! The only way to make sense of it is to think that you are
> trying to set up a team of _great_ loyal o injury-prone players. Weak,
> I know, but let's say so:
> "Your goal is to set up a 4-2-3-1 (no goalkeeper) such that all the
> players are very good *both generally and* in a particular skill."

or: "not only great, but also very good at a particular skill"

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