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From: Baldoni on 19 May 2010 12:55 Darth Simian explained on 19/05/2010 : > On 19 May, 17:40, "Ron" <ihates...(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> "Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:23d954ae-bc8a-4de3-a59a-fbeb4d4792c7(a)q8g2000vbm.googlegroups.com... >> >>> PMSL. >>> -- >>> Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. >>> Where there is error, may we bring truth. >>> Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. >>> And where there is despair, may we bring hope. >>> Margaret Thatcher, 3rd May 1979. >> >> Bottom in Latin and maths, second bottom in geography and French, >> the Tory leader languished 13th out of his class of 13. >> >> PMSL. > David William Donald Cameron (pronounced /ˈkəmrən/; born 9 October > 1966) is the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Leader of the > Conservative Party. > Cameron studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford, gaining > a first class honours degree. He shares the same birthday as John Lennon. -- Count Baldoni
From: Ron on 19 May 2010 12:58 "Baldoni" <BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:85ij6oFgatU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Ron submitted this idea : >> >> "Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:23d954ae-bc8a-4de3-a59a-fbeb4d4792c7(a)q8g2000vbm.googlegroups.com... >>> PMSL. >>> -- >>> Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. >>> Where there is error, may we bring truth. >>> Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. >>> And where there is despair, may we bring hope. >>> Margaret Thatcher, 3rd May 1979. >> >> >> Bottom in Latin and maths, second bottom in geography and French, >> the Tory leader languished 13th out of his class of 13. >> >> PMSL. > > Latin is an excellent language to learn and provides a solid foundation > for those who wish to "read" languages at a later date. I had an > excellent classics tutor called "Old Genna" (his name was actually > Jenner). His father played against the Australians under Bradman for the > MCC, the movie "The Wild Geese" was partly based on the exploits of his > brother. > > -- > Count Baldoni > > Remember the TV play Bodyline? some upper class snobbery going on if i remember. Regarding Bill Bowes.
From: Baldoni on 19 May 2010 13:00 Ron laid this down on his screen : > > "Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:f897d551-705f-4aee-88d0-7fad3c8d6423(a)m21g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... >> On 19 May, 17:40, "Ron" <ihates...(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>> "Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:23d954ae-bc8a-4de3-a59a-fbeb4d4792c7(a)q8g2000vbm.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> > PMSL. >>> > -- >>> > Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. >>> > Where there is error, may we bring truth. >>> > Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. >>> > And where there is despair, may we bring hope. >>> > Margaret Thatcher, 3rd May 1979. >>> >>> Bottom in Latin and maths, second bottom in geography and French, >>> the Tory leader languished 13th out of his class of 13. >>> >>> PMSL. >> David William Donald Cameron (pronounced /ˈkəmrən/; born 9 October >> 1966) is the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Leader of the >> Conservative Party. >> Cameron studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford, gaining >> a first class honours degree. >> -- > David Miliband educated at Haverstock Comprehensive School in North London > from 1978 to 1983 > Miliband studied at Corpus Christi College at the University of Oxford and > obtained a first class honours degree in Philosophy, Politics and Economics. You might like this Ron :-) The Bullingdon Club is a socially exclusive student dining club at Oxford University, without any permanent rooms, infamous for its members' wealth and destructive binges.[1] Membership is by invitation only, and prohibitively expensive for most, given the need to pay for the uniform, dinners and damages The Club's history The Bullingdon Club was founded over 200 years ago. S. P. B. Mais claims it was founded in 1780 and was limited to 30 men,[3] and by 1875 it was considered "an old Oxford institution, with many good traditions".[4] Originally it was a hunting and cricket club, and Thomas Assheton Smith II is recorded as having batted for the Bullingdon against the Marylebone Cricket Club in 1796.[5] In 1805 cricket at Oxford University "was confined to the old Bullingdon Club, which was expensive and exclusive".[6] This foundational sporting purpose is attested to in the Club's crest. The Wisden Cricketer reports that the Bullingdon is "ostensibly one of the two original Oxford University cricket teams but it actually used cricket merely as a respectable front for the mischievous, destructive or self-indulgent tendencies of its members".[7] By the late 19th century the present emphasis on dining within the Club began to emerge. Walter Long attests that in 1875 "Bullingdon Club [cricket] matches were also of frequent occurrence, and many a good game was played there with visiting clubs. The Bullingdon Club dinners were the occasion of a great display of exuberant spirits, accompanied by a considerable consumption of the good things of life, which often made the drive back to Oxford an experience of exceptional nature".[4] A report of 1876 relates that "cricket there was secondary to the dinners, and the men were chiefly of an expensive class".[8] The New York Times told its readers in 1913 that "The Bullingdon represents the acme of exclusiveness at Oxford; it is the club of the sons of nobility, the sons of great wealth; its membership represents the 'young bloods' of the university".[9] [edit] The Club today Today, the Bullingdon is primarily a dining club, though a vestige of the Club's sporting links exists in the support of an annual point to point race. The Club President, known as the General, presents the winner's cup and the Club members meet there for a champagne breakfast. The Club also meets for an annual Club dinner. Guests may be invited to either of these events. There may also be smaller dinners during the year to mark the initiation of new members. Membership elections are held twice a year, when successful new members are visited in their rooms, which are then 'trashed' as a symbol of their election; the damage on these occasions is often more than tokenistic. The Club's modus operandi has often been to book a private dining room under an assumed name, as most restaurateurs are wary of the Club's reputation for causing considerable drunken damage during the course of the dinners. However, it depends on the character of the membership at the time — which necessarily varies from year to year — whether the famous 'destruction' is an intentional act of wanton vandalism or a side-effect of drinking prodigious quantities over a lengthy period of time. [edit] The Club's reputation A number of episodes over many decades have become anecdotal evidence of the Club's behaviour. Famously, on 12 May 1894[10][11] and again on 20 February 1927,[12] after dinner, Bullingdon members smashed almost all the glass of the lights and 468 windows in Peckwater Quad of Christ Church, along with the blinds and doors of the building. As a result, the Club was banned from meeting within 15 miles of Oxford.[2] Whilst still Prince of Wales, Edward VIII had a certain amount of difficulty in getting his parents' permission to join the Bullingdon on account of the Club's reputation. He eventually obtained it only on the understanding that he never join in what was then known as a "Bullingdon blind", a euphemistic phrase for an evening of drink and song. On hearing of his eventual attendance at one such evening, Queen Mary sent him a telegram requesting that he remove his name from the Club.[9][13] Andrew Gimson, biographer of Boris Johnson, reported about the club in the 1980s: "I don't think an evening would have ended without a restaurant being trashed and being paid for in full, very often in cash. [...] A night in the cells would be regarded as being par for a Buller man and so would debagging anyone who really attracted the irritation of the Buller men."[14] Dinners in recent years, being relatively low key, have not attracted press attention, though in 2005, following damage to a 15th century pub in Oxfordshire during a dinner, four members of the party were arrested; the incident was widely reported.[15] In the last few years the Bullingdon has been mentioned in the debates of the House of Commons in order to draw attention to excessive behaviour across the British class spectrum,[16] and to embarrass those increasingly prominent MPs who are former members of the Bullingdon (most notably David Cameron (UK Prime Minister), George Osborne (UK Chancellor of the Exchequer) and Boris Johnson (Mayor of London)).[17][18] Hansard records eight references to the Bullingdon between 2001 and 2008.[19] [edit] Club dress Bullingdon Colours The Club's colours are sky blue and ivory. Members dress for their annual Club dinner in specially made traditional tailcoats in dark navy blue, with a matching velvet collar, offset with ivory silk lapel revers, brass monogrammed buttons, a mustard waistcoat, and a sky blue bow tie. There is also a Club tie, which is sky blue striped with ivory. These are all provided by the Oxford branch of court tailors Ede and Ravenscroft. In 2007 the full uniform cost around £3,000.[20] Traditionally when they played cricket, members "were identified by a ribbon of blue and white on their straw hats, and by stripes of the same colours down their flannel trousers".[21] [edit] The Club and Oxford University The Bullingdon is not currently officially affiliated with the University of Oxford[22] but members are drawn from amongst the students of the University. On account of the rowdiness of members' activities however, the University proctors have in the past suspended the Club on several occasions,[4] including in 1927 and 1956.[23] John Betjeman wrote in 1938 that "quite often the Club is suspended for some years after each meeting".[24] Whilst under suspension the Club has been known to meet in relative secrecy. The club was active in Oxford in 2008/9, although not currently registered with the University, and the retiring proctors' oration recited an incident which, not being on university premises, was outside their jurisdiction: "some students had taken habitually to the drunken braying of 'We are the Bullingdon' at 3 a.m. from a house not far from the Phoenix Cinema. But the transcript of what they called the wife of the neighbour who went to ask them to be quiet was written in language that is not usually printed".[25] The members therefore received an Anti-Social Behaviour Contract from the Thames Valley Police, threatening the more common ASBO. The proctor concluded in March 2009: "So I am pleased to say that, except perhaps at the highest level of national politics, the Bullingdon Club this year has been quiescent." [edit] The Club in fiction The Bullingdon is satirised as the Bollinger Club (Bollinger being a notable brand of champagne) in Evelyn Waugh's novel Decline and Fall (1928), where it has a pivotal role in the plot: the mild-mannered hero gets the blame for the Bollinger Club's destructive rampage through his college and is sent down. Tom Driberg claimed that the description of the Bollinger Club was a "mild account of the night of any Bullingdon Club dinner in Christ Church. Such a profusion of glass I never saw until the height of the Blitz. On such nights, any undergraduate who was believed to have 'artistic' talents was an automatic target."[26] Waugh mentions the Bullingdon by name[27] in Brideshead Revisited. In talking to Charles Ryder, Anthony Blanche relates that the Bullingdon attempted to "put him in [the fountain] Mercury" in Tom Quad one evening. Blanche describes the members in their tails as looking "like a lot of most disorderly footmen". Blanche then goes on to say: "Do you know, I went round to call on Sebastian next day? I thought the tale of my evening's adventures might amuse him." This could likely indicate that Sebastian was not a member of the Bullingdon, though in the 1981 TV adaptation, Lord Sebastian Flyte vomits through the window of Charles Ryder's college room whilst wearing the famous Bullingdon tails.[28] The 2008 film adaptation of Brideshead Revisited likewise clothes Flyte in the Club tails during this scene, as his fellow revellers chant "Buller, Buller, Buller!" behind him. A fictional Oxford club based on the Bullingdon and its members forms the basis of a play named Posh running for 6 weeks at the Royal Court Theatre in London, UK, scheduled to run from 9th April to 22 May 2010.[29] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullingdon_Club -- Count Baldoni
From: Ron on 19 May 2010 13:04 "Baldoni" <BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:85ijpiFjqbU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Ron laid this down on his screen : >> >> "Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:f897d551-705f-4aee-88d0-7fad3c8d6423(a)m21g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... >>> On 19 May, 17:40, "Ron" <ihates...(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>> "Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heav...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in >>>> message >>>> >>>> news:23d954ae-bc8a-4de3-a59a-fbeb4d4792c7(a)q8g2000vbm.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> > PMSL. >>>> > -- >>>> > Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. >>>> > Where there is error, may we bring truth. >>>> > Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. >>>> > And where there is despair, may we bring hope. >>>> > Margaret Thatcher, 3rd May 1979. >>>> >>>> Bottom in Latin and maths, second bottom in geography and French, >>>> the Tory leader languished 13th out of his class of 13. >>>> >>>> PMSL. >>> David William Donald Cameron (pronounced /ˈkəmrən/; born 9 October >>> 1966) is the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Leader of the >>> Conservative Party. >>> Cameron studied Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford, gaining >>> a first class honours degree. >>> -- >> David Miliband educated at Haverstock Comprehensive School in North >> London from 1978 to 1983 >> Miliband studied at Corpus Christi College at the University of Oxford >> and obtained a first class honours degree in Philosophy, Politics and >> Economics. > > You might like this Ron :-) > All member of the The Bullingdon Club are on my list Baldoni Come the revolution. ;)
From: Baldoni on 19 May 2010 13:07
Ron pretended : > > "Baldoni" <BaldoniXXV(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:85ij6oFgatU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> Ron submitted this idea : >>> >>> "Darth Simian" <great_sage_equal_of_heaven_(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:23d954ae-bc8a-4de3-a59a-fbeb4d4792c7(a)q8g2000vbm.googlegroups.com... >>>> PMSL. >>>> -- >>>> Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. >>>> Where there is error, may we bring truth. >>>> Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. >>>> And where there is despair, may we bring hope. >>>> Margaret Thatcher, 3rd May 1979. >>> >>> >>> Bottom in Latin and maths, second bottom in geography and French, >>> the Tory leader languished 13th out of his class of 13. >>> >>> PMSL. >> >> Latin is an excellent language to learn and provides a solid foundation for >> those who wish to "read" languages at a later date. I had an excellent >> classics tutor called "Old Genna" (his name was actually Jenner). His >> father played against the Australians under Bradman for the MCC, the movie >> "The Wild Geese" was partly based on the exploits of his brother. >> >> -- Count Baldoni >> >> > Remember the TV play Bodyline? > some upper class snobbery going on if i remember. > Regarding Bill Bowes. Oh yes Ron I remember the play. Douglas Jardine was the captain and instructed Harold Larwood how to set about the Aussies. IIRC Ben Cross played Jardine, I had forgotten who the snobbery was against but cricket was riddled with it. They sailed down to Australia in those days, probably with the P&O, a long haul in those days. -- Count Baldoni |