From: KaiserD2 on
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:31:54 +1000, "Diabolik" <diabolik(a)nospam.com>
wrote:

>
>"Alkamista" <alkamista(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:41a91aa1-9a82-4bef-8773-7be382929000(a)d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>On Jul 5, 7:34 am, "Diabolik" <Diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>> Not a bad reception for a coach that got eliminated at the quarterfinals.
>>
>> I think he showed what a great motivator he is, and a great coach.
>
>> Where are you getting the "great coach" part from? Argentina were god
>> awful in the qualifiers, and they beat lesser teams in the group phase
>> by the virtue of some of the best attacking talent ever assembled in a
>> single World Cup squad.
>
>They did have some of the best attacking talent, but how many forwards can
>you place in a team?
>
>
>> The second they met a team of pedigree they
>> were unclothed for their tactical naivety, as predicted by many.
>
>Germany had a lucky break with a gol within 5 mins, then defended with 10
>men behind the ball.
>
>The other 3 gols came after trying to chase the game and replacing a
>defender with a forward (Pastore).
>
>Weather you lose by 1 or 4 gols doesn't matter.
>
>
>> Maradona may have been enthusiastic, affable, and a spectacle, but he
>> is mental neanderthal who didn't belong anywhere near the esteemed
>> position that he found himself in.
>
>I disagree, I think he did quite well and was suprised.
>
>
>>
>> Argentina did well, considering they wrote him off from the start. With a
>> bit of luck they could have gone further.
>
>> More than a bit. They would've needed four strokes of luck to avoid
>> defeat against Germany.
>
As I said during the match, Maradona's inexperience was visible for
all to see from the moment Germany scored that first goal (which was
also one of the three worst pieces of goalkeeping in the whole
tournament, by the way.) He was stunned and helpless--exactly what
you do NOT need from a manager in a situation like that. And from
that moment on, the team choked.

DK
From: Diabolik on

<KaiserD2(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ge35369f5dg2uog33n831jbe1d44rvacnk(a)4ax.com...
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:31:54 +1000, "Diabolik" <diabolik(a)nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Alkamista" <alkamista(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:41a91aa1-9a82-4bef-8773-7be382929000(a)d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>On Jul 5, 7:34 am, "Diabolik" <Diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>>> Not a bad reception for a coach that got eliminated at the
>>> quarterfinals.
>>>
>>> I think he showed what a great motivator he is, and a great coach.
>>
>>> Where are you getting the "great coach" part from? Argentina were god
>>> awful in the qualifiers, and they beat lesser teams in the group phase
>>> by the virtue of some of the best attacking talent ever assembled in a
>>> single World Cup squad.
>>
>>They did have some of the best attacking talent, but how many forwards can
>>you place in a team?
>>
>>
>>> The second they met a team of pedigree they
>>> were unclothed for their tactical naivety, as predicted by many.
>>
>>Germany had a lucky break with a gol within 5 mins, then defended with 10
>>men behind the ball.
>>
>>The other 3 gols came after trying to chase the game and replacing a
>>defender with a forward (Pastore).
>>
>>Weather you lose by 1 or 4 gols doesn't matter.
>>
>>
>>> Maradona may have been enthusiastic, affable, and a spectacle, but he
>>> is mental neanderthal who didn't belong anywhere near the esteemed
>>> position that he found himself in.
>>
>>I disagree, I think he did quite well and was suprised.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Argentina did well, considering they wrote him off from the start. With
>>> a
>>> bit of luck they could have gone further.
>>
>>> More than a bit. They would've needed four strokes of luck to avoid
>>> defeat against Germany.
>>
> As I said during the match, Maradona's inexperience was visible for
> all to see from the moment Germany scored that first goal (which was
> also one of the three worst pieces of goalkeeping in the whole
> tournament, by the way.)

Yeah, a mistake can happen.


> He was stunned and helpless--exactly what
> you do NOT need from a manager in a situation like that. And from
> that moment on, the team choked.

The team tried to build play and attack after the gol but they were shut
down by 10 men behind the ball.

There was no room to move, even Klose and Podolski were defending.

Messi was marked man to man so he had to come really deep to get the ball.

It's not easy to attack and score in those circumstances.