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From: Ron on 9 Jul 2010 05:22 "RickyBobby" wrote in message news:y_idnTxeaoybQKvRnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d(a)giganews.com... "Newton Heath" <newton.heath07(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:51ae336a-ece3-423e-a8ff-4220b83ec372(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... > I must be bored. Here I was sifting through various websites and I > came across one that debated the cost and necessity of such a mission. > > If any government said that they were going to spend a trillion of anything on a science experiment there would be a revolution. I think it is funny when people get all worked up over things that have not yet been invented. Face it, the pace of invention and discovery is slow. Back in the dark days of WWll we already had the car, airplane, electricity, nuclear energy, and the first computer. Coal and petroleum go back even farther. I suppose the transistor and the television both came about after WWll. But that is really about it except for the primitive single use "spaceship". The first practical use of television was in Germany. Regular television broadcasts began in Germany in 1929
From: Baldoni on 9 Jul 2010 06:45 Ron expressed precisely : > > "RickyBobby" wrote in message > news:y_idnTxeaoybQKvRnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > > > "Newton Heath" <newton.heath07(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:51ae336a-ece3-423e-a8ff-4220b83ec372(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... >> I must be bored. Here I was sifting through various websites and I >> came across one that debated the cost and necessity of such a mission. >> >> > > If any government said that they were going to spend a trillion of anything > on a science experiment there would be a revolution. > > I think it is funny when people get all worked up over things that have not > yet been invented. > > Face it, the pace of invention and discovery is slow. > > Back in the dark days of WWll we already had the car, airplane, electricity, > nuclear energy, and the first computer. Coal and petroleum go back even > farther. > > I suppose the transistor and the television both came about after WWll. But > that is really about it except for the primitive single use "spaceship". > > The first practical use of television was in Germany. Regular television > broadcasts began in Germany in 1929 Ron can you remember that fellow from "The Open University" who tried to land a moving camera on Mars and it failed ? He had big thick sideburns and would not have looked out of place running a pub in the West Country lol Good on him though. -- Count Baldoni
From: Newton Heath on 9 Jul 2010 07:48 On 9 July, 10:32, "shazzbat" <shazz...(a)spamlessness.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > Does this mean it would take 52 years to prepare > > the astronauts for the mission? > > No, of course it doesn't. So they improvise at the time if something goes wrong? If that's the case, then just cut the middle man and send dead bodies up there. There would be more to the flight plan that just take off, point the craft at Mars, wait a few months then land. At the nearest point, Mars is four minutes away at light speed. If anything goes wrong, those astronauts can't afford to wait that long for mission control, assumning they have an immediate solution. They have to imagine every possible problem and practise them in the simulators until they have perfected them. For all the people at mission control, once the craft takes off, the astronauts are on their own. So forget about 6 months to prepare. > For this reason it has long been assumed > that such a mission would be crewed by more senior astronauts. > Certainly it could not include for instance women of child-bearing age. Or it backs up my argument that such preparation would take so long the astronauts would be in their senior years. A woman of child bearing age would be an ideal astronaut if the bigger picture involves colonization. If a woman can't bear a healthy child on Mars, then what's the point?
From: Newton Heath on 9 Jul 2010 07:51 On 9 July, 12:48, Newton Heath <newton.heat...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > On 9 July, 10:32, "shazzbat" <shazz...(a)spamlessness.fsnet.co.uk> > wrote:> Does this mean it would take 52 years to prepare > > > the astronauts for the mission? > > > No, of course it doesn't. > > So they improvise at the time if something goes wrong? If that's the > case, then just cut the middle man and send dead bodies up there. > There would be more to the flight plan that just take off, point the > craft at Mars, wait a few months then land. At the nearest point, > Mars is four minutes away at light speed. If anything goes wrong, > those astronauts can't afford to wait that long for mission control, > assumning they have an immediate solution. They have to imagine every > possible problem and practise them in the simulators until they have > perfected them. For all the people at mission control, once the craft > takes off, the astronauts are on their own. So forget about 6 months > to prepare. > > > For this reason it has long been assumed > > that such a mission would be crewed by more senior astronauts. > > Certainly it could not include for instance women of child-bearing age. > > Or it backs up my argument that such preparation would take so long > the astronauts would be in their senior years. A woman of child > bearing age would be an ideal astronaut if the bigger picture involves > colonization. If a woman can't bear a healthy child on Mars, then > what's the point? Gone now. Back on Tuesday.
From: Ron on 9 Jul 2010 11:29
"Baldoni" wrote in message news:89ocu4F6s7U1(a)mid.individual.net... Ron expressed precisely : > > "RickyBobby" wrote in message > news:y_idnTxeaoybQKvRnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > > > "Newton Heath" <newton.heath07(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:51ae336a-ece3-423e-a8ff-4220b83ec372(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... >> I must be bored. Here I was sifting through various websites and I >> came across one that debated the cost and necessity of such a mission. >> >> > > If any government said that they were going to spend a trillion of > anything > on a science experiment there would be a revolution. > > I think it is funny when people get all worked up over things that have > not > yet been invented. > > Face it, the pace of invention and discovery is slow. > > Back in the dark days of WWll we already had the car, airplane, > electricity, > nuclear energy, and the first computer. Coal and petroleum go back even > farther. > > I suppose the transistor and the television both came about after WWll. > But > that is really about it except for the primitive single use "spaceship". > > The first practical use of television was in Germany. Regular television > broadcasts began in Germany in 1929 Ron can you remember that fellow from "The Open University" who tried to land a moving camera on Mars and it failed ? He had big thick sideburns and would not have looked out of place running a pub in the West Country lol Good on him though. -- Count Baldoni Oo! Ah! |