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From: Alkamista on 4 Apr 2010 12:57 On Apr 3, 9:57 pm, Jellore <jell...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > On Apr 4, 11:53 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 4 Apr, 06:07, REDDEV...(a)nospam.net wrote: > > > > On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:21:15 +0000 (UTC), Sid > > > > <sid(a)invalid_nerte.invalid.invalid_net.invalid> wrote: > > > >* Clément [2010-04-03 08:58] [rec.sport.soccer]: > > > >> On Apr 3, 10:25 am, anders t wrote: > > > >>> I hope Abramovich had to pay the linesman a very high premium for that 2-0 > > > >>> goal. > > > > >> It does suck, eh? I'll say it again, there's no good reason for such > > > >> goals to stand in football. It's an embarrassment. (I won't comment on > > > >> Macheda's goal because I need to see it again). > > > > >I don't think it was a handball. I replayed it a few times and it > > > >appears to come off his upper-right chest/shoulder. Of course, I am > > > >a United supporter, so I might have just wanted to see that. > > > > >> Back to football, Man U's 1st half showing (or no-showing) cost you > > > >> the game. Also worth mentioning that 2 players who were subbed in > > > >> combined to get Chelsea's 2nd goal, so gotta give Ancelotti some > > > >> credit on that one (refereeing mistake aside). > > > > >True, just like the 2 players who were subbed in combining to get > > > >United's first. (one of them accidentally, of course) > > > > >A draw would have been nice, but we showed nothing in the first half > > > >and it is how it is. > > > > >Sid > > > > Chelsea dominated the first half and United dominated the second half, > > > there were a few poor ref decisions. Chelsea should have had a penalty > > > when Gary Neville barged in and United should have had a penalty when > > > Park was fouled. The United goal came off Macheda's shoulder/chest and > > > was no hand ball. The second Chelsea goal was way offside. that said > > > Chelsea shaded it overall and were worth the points. > > > There were two bad decisions, but luckily they cancelled each other > > out: Drogba's obviously offside goal and Neville's barging Anelka > > over. Park and Manure supporters are dreaming if they think that > > incident deserved a PK. > > > Apart from that, Chelsea were the better side throughout. Man Utd got > > back in the game only because Chelsea decided to give them more > > possession that was necessary in the second half of the second half, > > but the Blues still looked better when in possession themselves. > > Obviously you didn't watch the match. Man Utd's best spell was from > the 45 to 70 min mark. Chelsea "decided to give them more > possession"??? > > BTW nothing like a defeat to bring out the Man Utd haters out in > force. Actually Curly, you will find that most people are out in force because it was the biggest match in the English football season to date.
From: Stephen O'Connell on 4 Apr 2010 20:23 <REDDEVIL6(a)nospam.net> wrote in message news:4kqfr5l13n039tv6df3bvuck6d77j2qplc(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:48:08 -0600, MH <MHnospam(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote: > >>Sid wrote: >>> * REDDEVIL6(a)nospam.net [2010-04-03 15:07] [rec.sport.soccer]: >>> >>>> Chelsea dominated the first half and United dominated the second half, >>>> there were a few poor ref decisions. Chelsea should have had a penalty >>>> when Gary Neville barged in and United should have had a penalty when >>>> Park was fouled. The United goal came off Macheda's shoulder/chest and >>>> was no hand ball. The second Chelsea goal was way offside. that said >>>> Chelsea shaded it overall and were worth the points. >>> >>> Indeed. We have to win out from here (difficult) and hope Chelsea >>> slips up somewhere (even more difficult - maybe Liverpool will do us a >>> favour?) >> >>Chelsea are still away to Spurs and Liverpool, no? Both teams with >>every motivation to win all their remaining games. > > it's not over yet It's not. But I can't really see the Scousers wanting to do Man Utd a favour and help them to their 19th League title! Especially as they aren't going to get 4th place anyway... I'd be very surprised if more points are not dropped by both Man Utd and Chelsea though, so the fat lady isn't singing just yet.
From: Abubakr on 5 Apr 2010 08:44 On 4 Apr, 12:57, Jellore <jell...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > On Apr 4, 11:53 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 4 Apr, 06:07, REDDEV...(a)nospam.net wrote: > > > > On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:21:15 +0000 (UTC), Sid > > > > <sid(a)invalid_nerte.invalid.invalid_net.invalid> wrote: > > > >* Clément [2010-04-03 08:58] [rec.sport.soccer]: > > > >> On Apr 3, 10:25 am, anders t wrote: > > > >>> I hope Abramovich had to pay the linesman a very high premium for that 2-0 > > > >>> goal. > > > > >> It does suck, eh? I'll say it again, there's no good reason for such > > > >> goals to stand in football. It's an embarrassment. (I won't comment on > > > >> Macheda's goal because I need to see it again). > > > > >I don't think it was a handball. I replayed it a few times and it > > > >appears to come off his upper-right chest/shoulder. Of course, I am > > > >a United supporter, so I might have just wanted to see that. > > > > >> Back to football, Man U's 1st half showing (or no-showing) cost you > > > >> the game. Also worth mentioning that 2 players who were subbed in > > > >> combined to get Chelsea's 2nd goal, so gotta give Ancelotti some > > > >> credit on that one (refereeing mistake aside). > > > > >True, just like the 2 players who were subbed in combining to get > > > >United's first. (one of them accidentally, of course) > > > > >A draw would have been nice, but we showed nothing in the first half > > > >and it is how it is. > > > > >Sid > > > > Chelsea dominated the first half and United dominated the second half, > > > there were a few poor ref decisions. Chelsea should have had a penalty > > > when Gary Neville barged in and United should have had a penalty when > > > Park was fouled. The United goal came off Macheda's shoulder/chest and > > > was no hand ball. The second Chelsea goal was way offside. that said > > > Chelsea shaded it overall and were worth the points. > > > There were two bad decisions, but luckily they cancelled each other > > out: Drogba's obviously offside goal and Neville's barging Anelka > > over. Park and Manure supporters are dreaming if they think that > > incident deserved a PK. > > > Apart from that, Chelsea were the better side throughout. Man Utd got > > back in the game only because Chelsea decided to give them more > > possession that was necessary in the second half of the second half, > > but the Blues still looked better when in possession themselves. > > Obviously you didn't watch the match. Man Utd's best spell was from > the 45 to 70 min mark. I did watch the match though admittedly didn't pay much attention to the second half. But I could see in my peripheral vision that Manure were still largely shithouse and Chelski were going through the motions. > Chelsea "decided to give them more > possession"??? Yeah. Like hoofing the ball out of defense when you know that would give it straight back to the opposition. There was really no need for that kind of tactic as they were in better control of the game than some of the back-men were allowing themselves to think. > BTW nothing like a defeat to bring out the Man Utd haters out in > force.
From: Jellore on 5 Apr 2010 22:40 On Apr 5, 10:44 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 4 Apr, 12:57, Jellore <jell...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 11:53 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 4 Apr, 06:07, REDDEV...(a)nospam.net wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:21:15 +0000 (UTC), Sid > > > > > <sid(a)invalid_nerte.invalid.invalid_net.invalid> wrote: > > > > >* Clément [2010-04-03 08:58] [rec.sport.soccer]: > > > > >> On Apr 3, 10:25 am, anders t wrote: > > > > >>> I hope Abramovich had to pay the linesman a very high premium for that 2-0 > > > > >>> goal. > > > > > >> It does suck, eh? I'll say it again, there's no good reason for such > > > > >> goals to stand in football. It's an embarrassment. (I won't comment on > > > > >> Macheda's goal because I need to see it again). > > > > > >I don't think it was a handball. I replayed it a few times and it > > > > >appears to come off his upper-right chest/shoulder. Of course, I am > > > > >a United supporter, so I might have just wanted to see that. > > > > > >> Back to football, Man U's 1st half showing (or no-showing) cost you > > > > >> the game. Also worth mentioning that 2 players who were subbed in > > > > >> combined to get Chelsea's 2nd goal, so gotta give Ancelotti some > > > > >> credit on that one (refereeing mistake aside). > > > > > >True, just like the 2 players who were subbed in combining to get > > > > >United's first. (one of them accidentally, of course) > > > > > >A draw would have been nice, but we showed nothing in the first half > > > > >and it is how it is. > > > > > >Sid > > > > > Chelsea dominated the first half and United dominated the second half, > > > > there were a few poor ref decisions. Chelsea should have had a penalty > > > > when Gary Neville barged in and United should have had a penalty when > > > > Park was fouled. The United goal came off Macheda's shoulder/chest and > > > > was no hand ball. The second Chelsea goal was way offside. that said > > > > Chelsea shaded it overall and were worth the points. > > > > There were two bad decisions, but luckily they cancelled each other > > > out: Drogba's obviously offside goal and Neville's barging Anelka > > > over. Park and Manure supporters are dreaming if they think that > > > incident deserved a PK. > > > > Apart from that, Chelsea were the better side throughout. Man Utd got > > > back in the game only because Chelsea decided to give them more > > > possession that was necessary in the second half of the second half, > > > but the Blues still looked better when in possession themselves. > > > Obviously you didn't watch the match. Man Utd's best spell was from > > the 45 to 70 min mark. > > I did watch the match though admittedly didn't pay much attention to > the second half. But I could see in my peripheral vision that Manure > were still largely shithouse and Chelski were going through the > motions. > > > Chelsea "decided to give them more > > possession"??? > > Yeah. Like hoofing the ball out of defense when you know that would > give it straight back to the opposition. There was really no need for > that kind of tactic as they were in better control of the game than > some of the back-men were allowing themselves to think. > > > > > BTW nothing like a defeat to bring out the Man Utd haters out in > > force. You make little sense as usual, although thank you for more or less admitting that did not watch the match. "Hoofing the ball out of defense" as you put it does not equate to "going through the motions". It strikes me as a team under pressure, which Chelsea were during the initial 15 to 20 mins of the 2nd half. Man Utd were indeed shithouse as you put it in the 1st half, however when someone constantly refers to a team as "Manure" it is clearly impossible to engage in reasoned debate.
From: Abubakr on 5 Apr 2010 23:25
On 6 Apr, 12:40, Jellore <jell...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > On Apr 5, 10:44 pm, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 4 Apr, 12:57, Jellore <jell...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 4, 11:53 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 4 Apr, 06:07, REDDEV...(a)nospam.net wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:21:15 +0000 (UTC), Sid > > > > > > <sid(a)invalid_nerte.invalid.invalid_net.invalid> wrote: > > > > > >* Clément [2010-04-03 08:58] [rec.sport.soccer]: > > > > > >> On Apr 3, 10:25 am, anders t wrote: > > > > > >>> I hope Abramovich had to pay the linesman a very high premium for that 2-0 > > > > > >>> goal. > > > > > > >> It does suck, eh? I'll say it again, there's no good reason for such > > > > > >> goals to stand in football. It's an embarrassment. (I won't comment on > > > > > >> Macheda's goal because I need to see it again). > > > > > > >I don't think it was a handball. I replayed it a few times and it > > > > > >appears to come off his upper-right chest/shoulder. Of course, I am > > > > > >a United supporter, so I might have just wanted to see that. > > > > > > >> Back to football, Man U's 1st half showing (or no-showing) cost you > > > > > >> the game. Also worth mentioning that 2 players who were subbed in > > > > > >> combined to get Chelsea's 2nd goal, so gotta give Ancelotti some > > > > > >> credit on that one (refereeing mistake aside). > > > > > > >True, just like the 2 players who were subbed in combining to get > > > > > >United's first. (one of them accidentally, of course) > > > > > > >A draw would have been nice, but we showed nothing in the first half > > > > > >and it is how it is. > > > > > > >Sid > > > > > > Chelsea dominated the first half and United dominated the second half, > > > > > there were a few poor ref decisions. Chelsea should have had a penalty > > > > > when Gary Neville barged in and United should have had a penalty when > > > > > Park was fouled. The United goal came off Macheda's shoulder/chest and > > > > > was no hand ball. The second Chelsea goal was way offside. that said > > > > > Chelsea shaded it overall and were worth the points. > > > > > There were two bad decisions, but luckily they cancelled each other > > > > out: Drogba's obviously offside goal and Neville's barging Anelka > > > > over. Park and Manure supporters are dreaming if they think that > > > > incident deserved a PK. > > > > > Apart from that, Chelsea were the better side throughout. Man Utd got > > > > back in the game only because Chelsea decided to give them more > > > > possession that was necessary in the second half of the second half, > > > > but the Blues still looked better when in possession themselves. > > > > Obviously you didn't watch the match. Man Utd's best spell was from > > > the 45 to 70 min mark. > > > I did watch the match though admittedly didn't pay much attention to > > the second half. But I could see in my peripheral vision that Manure > > were still largely shithouse and Chelski were going through the > > motions. > > > > Chelsea "decided to give them more > > > possession"??? > > > Yeah. Like hoofing the ball out of defense when you know that would > > give it straight back to the opposition. There was really no need for > > that kind of tactic as they were in better control of the game than > > some of the back-men were allowing themselves to think. > > > > BTW nothing like a defeat to bring out the Man Utd haters out in > > > force. > > You make little sense as usual, although thank you for more or less > admitting that did not watch the match. > > "Hoofing the ball out of defense" as you put it does not equate to > "going through the motions". It strikes me as a team under pressure, > which Chelsea were during the initial 15 to 20 mins of the 2nd half. > > Man Utd were indeed shithouse as you put it in the 1st half, however > when someone constantly refers to a team as "Manure" it is clearly > impossible to engage in reasoned debate. So you are pretending to be up for reasonable debate now, are you? |