From: Graf Finklestein on
On 3 Apr, 15:38, anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote:
> Quoting Stephen O'Connell in rec.sport.soccer:
>
> >"anders t" <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:8ager51t76epgdirotml2d1pt5c4c9o8fg(a)4ax.com...
> >> I hope Abramovich had to pay the linesman a very high premium for that
> >> 2-0
> >> goal.
>
> >Was that the same linesman that didn't spot the Man Utd goal pushed in by
> >the arm, or was it a different official?
>
> No, but the same one that denied MU a handball PK.
>
> >Anybody who saw the game knows that the best team won.
>
> Domination in separate halves. A draw it should have been.
>
> --
>        MANCHESTER UNITED FC
>             CHAMPIONS
>   ENGLAND 08/09 & THE WORLD 08/09

If you remove Drogba's offside goal and Macheda's handball goal,
Chelsea still scored legitimately and Man U didn't - so how does that
equate to a draw being the correct result.

PS the better team won.
From: REDDEVIL6 on
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 15:15:15 -0700 (PDT), Graf Finklestein
<udo_binsack(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 3 Apr, 14:25, anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I hope Abramovich had to pay the linesman a very high premium for that 2-0
>> goal.
>>
>> --
>> � � � �MANCHESTER UNITED FC
>> � � � � � � CHAMPIONS
>> � ENGLAND 08/09 & THE WORLD 08/09
>
>How much did Ferguson pay the ref to overlook Macheda's blatant
>handball for your goal, then?

Chelsea deserved their win, but you are wrong when you say that
Macheda handled the ball because he didn't.

From: REDDEVIL6 on
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:48:08 -0600, MH <MHnospam(a)ucalgary.ca> wrote:

>Sid wrote:
>> * REDDEVIL6(a)nospam.net [2010-04-03 15:07] [rec.sport.soccer]:
>>
>>> Chelsea dominated the first half and United dominated the second half,
>>> there were a few poor ref decisions. Chelsea should have had a penalty
>>> when Gary Neville barged in and United should have had a penalty when
>>> Park was fouled. The United goal came off Macheda's shoulder/chest and
>>> was no hand ball. The second Chelsea goal was way offside. that said
>>> Chelsea shaded it overall and were worth the points.
>>
>> Indeed. We have to win out from here (difficult) and hope Chelsea
>> slips up somewhere (even more difficult - maybe Liverpool will do us a
>> favour?)
>
>Chelsea are still away to Spurs and Liverpool, no? Both teams with
>every motivation to win all their remaining games.
>>
>>
>> Sid

it's not over yet
From: Abubakr on
On 4 Apr, 06:07, REDDEV...(a)nospam.net wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:21:15 +0000 (UTC), Sid
>
>
>
>
>
> <sid(a)invalid_nerte.invalid.invalid_net.invalid> wrote:
> >* Clément [2010-04-03 08:58] [rec.sport.soccer]:
> >> On Apr 3, 10:25 am, anders t wrote:
> >>> I hope Abramovich had to pay the linesman a very high premium for that 2-0
> >>> goal.
>
> >> It does suck, eh? I'll say it again, there's no good reason for such
> >> goals to stand in football. It's an embarrassment. (I won't comment on
> >> Macheda's goal because I need to see it again).
>
> >I don't think it was a handball. I replayed it a few times and it
> >appears to come off his upper-right chest/shoulder. Of course, I am
> >a United supporter, so I might have just wanted to see that.
>
> >> Back to football, Man U's 1st half showing (or no-showing) cost you
> >> the game. Also worth mentioning that 2 players who were subbed in
> >> combined to get Chelsea's 2nd goal, so gotta give Ancelotti some
> >> credit on that one (refereeing mistake aside).
>
> >True, just like the 2 players who were subbed in combining to get
> >United's first. (one of them accidentally, of course)
>
> >A draw would have been nice, but we showed nothing in the first half
> >and it is how it is.
>
> >Sid
>
> Chelsea dominated the first half and United dominated the second half,
> there were a few poor ref decisions. Chelsea should have had a penalty
> when Gary Neville barged in and United should have had a penalty when
> Park was fouled. The United goal came off Macheda's shoulder/chest and
> was no hand ball. The second Chelsea goal was way offside. that said
> Chelsea shaded it overall and were worth the points.

There were two bad decisions, but luckily they cancelled each other
out: Drogba's obviously offside goal and Neville's barging Anelka
over. Park and Manure supporters are dreaming if they think that
incident deserved a PK.

Apart from that, Chelsea were the better side throughout. Man Utd got
back in the game only because Chelsea decided to give them more
possession that was necessary in the second half of the second half,
but the Blues still looked better when in possession themselves.
From: Jellore on
On Apr 4, 11:53 am, Abubakr <deltara...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4 Apr, 06:07, REDDEV...(a)nospam.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:21:15 +0000 (UTC), Sid
>
> > <sid(a)invalid_nerte.invalid.invalid_net.invalid> wrote:
> > >* Clément [2010-04-03 08:58] [rec.sport.soccer]:
> > >> On Apr 3, 10:25 am, anders t wrote:
> > >>> I hope Abramovich had to pay the linesman a very high premium for that 2-0
> > >>> goal.
>
> > >> It does suck, eh? I'll say it again, there's no good reason for such
> > >> goals to stand in football. It's an embarrassment. (I won't comment on
> > >> Macheda's goal because I need to see it again).
>
> > >I don't think it was a handball. I replayed it a few times and it
> > >appears to come off his upper-right chest/shoulder. Of course, I am
> > >a United supporter, so I might have just wanted to see that.
>
> > >> Back to football, Man U's 1st half showing (or no-showing) cost you
> > >> the game. Also worth mentioning that 2 players who were subbed in
> > >> combined to get Chelsea's 2nd goal, so gotta give Ancelotti some
> > >> credit on that one (refereeing mistake aside).
>
> > >True, just like the 2 players who were subbed in combining to get
> > >United's first. (one of them accidentally, of course)
>
> > >A draw would have been nice, but we showed nothing in the first half
> > >and it is how it is.
>
> > >Sid
>
> > Chelsea dominated the first half and United dominated the second half,
> > there were a few poor ref decisions. Chelsea should have had a penalty
> > when Gary Neville barged in and United should have had a penalty when
> > Park was fouled. The United goal came off Macheda's shoulder/chest and
> > was no hand ball. The second Chelsea goal was way offside. that said
> > Chelsea shaded it overall and were worth the points.
>
> There were two bad decisions, but luckily they cancelled each other
> out: Drogba's obviously offside goal and Neville's barging Anelka
> over. Park and Manure supporters are dreaming if they think that
> incident deserved a PK.
>
> Apart from that, Chelsea were the better side throughout. Man Utd got
> back in the game only because Chelsea decided to give them more
> possession that was necessary in the second half of the second half,
> but the Blues still looked better when in possession themselves.

Obviously you didn't watch the match. Man Utd's best spell was from
the 45 to 70 min mark. Chelsea "decided to give them more
possession"???

BTW nothing like a defeat to bring out the Man Utd haters out in
force.