From: JCQ on
Lampard said they should win because the EPL is the best league in the
world and they have some of the best players on Englad. What? If you
take out the top 5 or 6 teams in the EPL, the rest are just horrible.
They play no defense and players like Rooney and Lampard can look very
good and score a lot of goals. The World Cup is not like the bottom
10 of the EPL. England are just not as good as they think they are and
seem unwilling to show more passion and effort. They expect things to
come as easily as in the EPL and that's just a dream that won't come
true. In the world cup you have to take it to another level or you get
what we are seeing from England so far. Someone should remind Lampard
of how many of the best players in the EPL are not English and some of
the biggest clubs have fielded an entire team without even one English
player.
From: Alkamista on
On Jun 21, 10:23 pm, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Lampard said they should win because the EPL is the best league in the
> world and they have some of the best players on Englad. What? If you
> take out the top 5 or 6 teams in the EPL, the rest are just horrible.

5-6 very strong teams, if one agrees with you, is still better than
any other league in Europe.

> They play no defense and players like Rooney and Lampard can look very
> good and score a  lot of goals.

Now that is total rubbish. Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard, Rio, Terry are
(or have been till very recently) world class and some of the most
sought after players in the world. They would "look good" anywhere.

> England are just not as good as they think they are

If you had been around longer you would have noticed that this time
around most jaded England fans have been guarded about their chances,
it's mostly continentals who have been playing up their chances.
Either way, I agree they are overrated. England's recent coaches have
been chronically unable to make this current crop of stars play like a
cohesive unit. Lord kows what the reason is, every armchair expert has
an opinion on why.

> They expect things to
> come as easily as in the EPL and that's just a dream that won't come
> true. In the world cup you have to take it to another level or you get
> what we are seeing from England so far.

England can turn it up in one game and have everyone, English or
otherwise, swooning over their chances again. Or they could be out of
the competition by Wednesday afternoon. The latter is more likely, but
the former is entirely possible.
From: Paul C on
"JCQ" <zelig9999(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:17382413-f916-44a7-9697-c184d4abb24f(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

>Someone should remind Lampard
> of how many of the best players in the EPL are not English and some of
> the biggest clubs have fielded an entire team without even one English
> player.

Correct.




From: Huw Morris on
Winston Smith, American Patriot wrote:
> The USA has a 60-70% probability of going to R16, while England has a 30-
> 40% probability. I suggest players with nothing to prove--least of all to
> me--spend that time they would spend jawing smugly with journalists
> instead practicing free kicks or running 50 times around the pitch.

Both need a win, so I'd put the chances at about the same.

> Who was that idiot Slovenian who GUARANTEED a win against the USA, and
> that arrogant prick probably spent the last 10 minutes near his own goal
> in a panic that the USA would score the 3rd goal?

There wasn't one. It was a mistranslation. Now who looks like the idiot?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/17/world-cup-2010-slovenia-usa
From: William Clark on
In article <4c206f5b$0$23952$afc38c87(a)read01.usenet4all.se>,
"Winston Smith, American Patriot" <FranzKafka(a)Oceania.WhiteHouse.GOV>
wrote:

> Huw Morris <no(a)spam.please> wrote in rec.sport.soccer:
>
> > Winston Smith, American Patriot wrote:
> >> The USA has a 60-70% probability of going to R16, while England has a
> >> 30- 40% probability. I suggest players with nothing to prove--least
> >> of all to me--spend that time they would spend jawing smugly with
> >> journalists instead practicing free kicks or running 50 times around
> >> the pitch.
> >
> > Both need a win, so I'd put the chances at about the same.
> >
> >> Who was that idiot Slovenian who GUARANTEED a win against the USA,
> >> and that arrogant prick probably spent the last 10 minutes near his
> >> own goal in a panic that the USA would score the 3rd goal?
> >
> > There wasn't one. It was a mistranslation. Now who looks like the
> > idiot?
>
> Clearly FIFA looks like the idiot!
>
> All that money and they can't afford translators?

Translators? Way to modern for the likes of Blatter and Platini.