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From: Alkamista on 23 Jun 2010 13:55 On Jun 22, 3:37 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: > Alkamista wrote: > > On Jun 22, 3:02 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: > >> Alkamista wrote: > >>> On Jun 22, 1:50 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: > >>>> Alkamista wrote: > >>>>> On Jun 22, 12:53 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: > >>>>>> Alkamista wrote: > >>>>>>> Either way, I agree they are overrated. England's recent coaches > >>>>>>> have been chronically unable to make this current crop of stars > >>>>>>> play like a cohesive unit. Lord kows what the reason is, every > >>>>>>> armchair expert has an opinion on why. > > >>>>>> They should get a new manager and pay him 10 times what Domenech > >>>>>> makes. It'll fix everything, right? > > >>>>> Are you looking to clutch at every available straw in Domenech's > >>>>> defense? > > >>>> The pointlessness of cycling through managers has been at the core > >>>> of my argument for as long as we have exchanged barbs about this. > > >>> It's not so black and white. Managers aren't everything but they > >>> aren't nothing either. > > >>>> Clearly you aren't a good listener. > > >>> Really? I thought you were on a crusade against the media, and how > >>> lesser minds (unlike your's) are controlled by it. > > >> and? I don't follow your logic. > >> Are you seriously contesting that media propaganda is very > >> successful. > > > No, I dont doubt it. I do take serious exception to you to implying > > that everyone who disagrees with you here is media influenced, as if, > > to quote Thach, you have some direct line to the truth that others > > dont. You have been doing this for years. > > Bullshit. I can't be blamed for trolls claiming they don't see what everyone > with normal eyesight and minimal good faith can see. No, on the contrary, quite the fact. Not everyone is a troll and not everyone sees the world the way you do and not everyone is dumber than you. > > > > >> To > >> remain on topic, just consider the blitzkrieg of disinformation > >> about the France-Ireland match and how many people bought it. > > > I dont want to get into this argument > > of course you don't. Like everybody else around here who would rather > regurgitate anglo media propaganda. Go figure. You're starting to sound like the guy who was "abducted by aliens" with your obsession with the "anglo media propoganda." I have not brought this up even once since it first happened. So get a grip and get your facts straight. And I didnt want to talk about because I am sick of hearing it. The same reason you profess, but rarely adhere to. > > , but I think there are > > > qualitative differences between the Henry and Given incidents, and I > > say this based on nothing but the video evidence available to me for > > both incidents. > > There are no qualitative differences of importance. Both cheated > purposefully and decisively.- I'll state my views on this one last time. In the Given incident there may have been contact but Anelka clearly dove as well, so there were no angels there. On the balance of things Ireland suffered the greater injustice.
From: Manx Gunner on 23 Jun 2010 13:57 On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Alkamista wrote... > > There are no qualitative differences of importance. Both cheated > > purposefully and decisively.- > > I'll state my views on this one last time. In the Given incident there > may have been contact but Anelka clearly dove as well, so there were > no angels there. On the balance of things Ireland suffered the greater > injustice. Complete nonsense. Given very clearly deliberately grabbed Anelka by the ankle and tripped him. You're seeing what you want to see.
From: Alkamista on 23 Jun 2010 14:27 On Jun 23, 1:57 pm, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Alkamista wrote... > > > There are no qualitative differences of importance. Both cheated > > > purposefully and decisively.- > > > I'll state my views on this one last time. In the Given incident there > > may have been contact but Anelka clearly dove as well, so there were > > no angels there. On the balance of things Ireland suffered the greater > > injustice. > > Complete nonsense. Given very clearly deliberately grabbed Anelka by > the ankle and tripped him. You're seeing what you want to see. Watch the replay again and keep your eye on his right foot.
From: Manx Gunner on 23 Jun 2010 14:36 On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Alkamista wrote... > On Jun 23, 1:57 pm, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Alkamista wrote... > > > > There are no qualitative differences of importance. Both cheated > > > > purposefully and decisively.- > > > > > I'll state my views on this one last time. In the Given incident there > > > may have been contact but Anelka clearly dove as well, so there were > > > no angels there. On the balance of things Ireland suffered the greater > > > injustice. > > > > Complete nonsense. Given very clearly deliberately grabbed Anelka by > > the ankle and tripped him. You're seeing what you want to see. > > Watch the replay again and keep your eye on his right foot. No, you watch it again and keep your eye on Given's hands. He *grabs* Anelka's ankle.
From: Alkamista on 23 Jun 2010 14:47
On Jun 23, 2:36 pm, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Alkamista wrote... > > On Jun 23, 1:57 pm, Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Alkamista wrote... > > > > > There are no qualitative differences of importance. Both cheated > > > > > purposefully and decisively.- > > > > > I'll state my views on this one last time. In the Given incident there > > > > may have been contact but Anelka clearly dove as well, so there were > > > > no angels there. On the balance of things Ireland suffered the greater > > > > injustice. > > > > Complete nonsense. Given very clearly deliberately grabbed Anelka by > > > the ankle and tripped him. You're seeing what you want to see. > > > Watch the replay again and keep your eye on his right foot. > > No, you watch it again and keep your eye on Given's hands. > > He *grabs* Anelka's ankle. He grabs his left foot while the right foot is already going airborne. |