From: Alkamista on 22 Jun 2010 14:10 On Jun 22, 1:50 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: > Alkamista wrote: > > On Jun 22, 12:53 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: > >> Alkamista wrote: > >>> Either way, I agree they are overrated. England's recent coaches > >>> have been chronically unable to make this current crop of stars > >>> play like a cohesive unit. Lord kows what the reason is, every > >>> armchair expert has an opinion on why. > > >> They should get a new manager and pay him 10 times what Domenech > >> makes. It'll fix everything, right? > > > Are you looking to clutch at every available straw in Domenech's > > defense? > > The pointlessness of cycling through managers has been at the core of my > argument for as long as we have exchanged barbs about this. It's not so black and white. Managers aren't everything but they aren't nothing either. > Clearly you aren't a good listener. Really? I thought you were on a crusade against the media, and how lesser minds (unlike your's) are controlled by it.
From: Bob on 22 Jun 2010 15:02 Alkamista wrote: > On Jun 22, 1:50 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: >> Alkamista wrote: >>> On Jun 22, 12:53 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: >>>> Alkamista wrote: >>>>> Either way, I agree they are overrated. England's recent coaches >>>>> have been chronically unable to make this current crop of stars >>>>> play like a cohesive unit. Lord kows what the reason is, every >>>>> armchair expert has an opinion on why. >> >>>> They should get a new manager and pay him 10 times what Domenech >>>> makes. It'll fix everything, right? >> >>> Are you looking to clutch at every available straw in Domenech's >>> defense? >> >> The pointlessness of cycling through managers has been at the core >> of my argument for as long as we have exchanged barbs about this. > > It's not so black and white. Managers aren't everything but they > aren't nothing either. > >> Clearly you aren't a good listener. > > Really? I thought you were on a crusade against the media, and how > lesser minds (unlike your's) are controlled by it. and? I don't follow your logic. Are you seriously contesting that media propaganda is very successful. To remain on topic, just consider the blitzkrieg of disinformation about the France-Ireland match and how many people bought it. I am also sure you can think of many other examples in the politcal/news arena.
From: Alkamista on 22 Jun 2010 15:26 On Jun 22, 3:02 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: > Alkamista wrote: > > On Jun 22, 1:50 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: > >> Alkamista wrote: > >>> On Jun 22, 12:53 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: > >>>> Alkamista wrote: > >>>>> Either way, I agree they are overrated. England's recent coaches > >>>>> have been chronically unable to make this current crop of stars > >>>>> play like a cohesive unit. Lord kows what the reason is, every > >>>>> armchair expert has an opinion on why. > > >>>> They should get a new manager and pay him 10 times what Domenech > >>>> makes. It'll fix everything, right? > > >>> Are you looking to clutch at every available straw in Domenech's > >>> defense? > > >> The pointlessness of cycling through managers has been at the core > >> of my argument for as long as we have exchanged barbs about this. > > > It's not so black and white. Managers aren't everything but they > > aren't nothing either. > > >> Clearly you aren't a good listener. > > > Really? I thought you were on a crusade against the media, and how > > lesser minds (unlike your's) are controlled by it. > > and? I don't follow your logic. > Are you seriously contesting that media propaganda is very successful. No, I dont doubt it. I do take serious exception to you to implying that everyone who disagrees with you here is media influenced, as if, to quote Thach, you have some direct line to the truth that others dont. You have been doing this for years. > To > remain on topic, just consider the blitzkrieg of disinformation about the > France-Ireland match and how many people bought it. I dont want to get into this argument, but I think there are qualitative differences between the Henry and Given incidents, and I say this based on nothing but the video evidence available to me for both incidents.
From: Bob on 22 Jun 2010 15:37 Alkamista wrote: > On Jun 22, 3:02 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: >> Alkamista wrote: >>> On Jun 22, 1:50 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: >>>> Alkamista wrote: >>>>> On Jun 22, 12:53 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: >>>>>> Alkamista wrote: >>>>>>> Either way, I agree they are overrated. England's recent coaches >>>>>>> have been chronically unable to make this current crop of stars >>>>>>> play like a cohesive unit. Lord kows what the reason is, every >>>>>>> armchair expert has an opinion on why. >> >>>>>> They should get a new manager and pay him 10 times what Domenech >>>>>> makes. It'll fix everything, right? >> >>>>> Are you looking to clutch at every available straw in Domenech's >>>>> defense? >> >>>> The pointlessness of cycling through managers has been at the core >>>> of my argument for as long as we have exchanged barbs about this. >> >>> It's not so black and white. Managers aren't everything but they >>> aren't nothing either. >> >>>> Clearly you aren't a good listener. >> >>> Really? I thought you were on a crusade against the media, and how >>> lesser minds (unlike your's) are controlled by it. >> >> and? I don't follow your logic. >> Are you seriously contesting that media propaganda is very >> successful. > > No, I dont doubt it. I do take serious exception to you to implying > that everyone who disagrees with you here is media influenced, as if, > to quote Thach, you have some direct line to the truth that others > dont. You have been doing this for years. Bullshit. I can't be blamed for trolls claiming they don't see what everyone with normal eyesight and minimal good faith can see. > >> To >> remain on topic, just consider the blitzkrieg of disinformation >> about the France-Ireland match and how many people bought it. > > I dont want to get into this argument of course you don't. Like everybody else around here who would rather regurgitate anglo media propaganda. Go figure. , but I think there are > qualitative differences between the Henry and Given incidents, and I > say this based on nothing but the video evidence available to me for > both incidents. There are no qualitative differences of importance. Both cheated purposefully and decisively.
From: Mehdi on 22 Jun 2010 15:34
> Subject : Lampard Comments > From : zelig9999(a)gmail.com > If I had been around longer? I've been watching World Cups since 1978. > I think that's long enough. So it's mostly "continentals" who have > been playing up their chances? With every newspaper now on the > internet you just can't seriously say that. The English people and > press are obviously surprised by the poor performance so far. > Personally I'm not surprised. England have always been on a level > below the top teams ever since I have been watching world cups and > this team doesn't seem to be any different. Lampard, the British > press, and many other Englishmen seem to think they are on the same > level as the top teams which is why they are so disappointed with the > performance of the team. I stand by what I say. Maybe they are just > not as good as they think they are. Watching 8 World Cups is no excuse for repeating cliched nonsense and from your comments it's clear you don't follow club football. -- http://soccer-europe.com Rss feed : http://soccer-europe.com/RSS/News.xml |