From: Alkamista on 22 Jun 2010 13:20 On Jun 22, 12:36 pm, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 21, 7:39 pm, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > If you had been around longer you would have noticed that this time > > around most jaded England fans have been guarded about their chances, > > it's mostly continentals who have been playing up their chances. > > Either way, I agree they are overrated. England's recent coaches have > > been chronically unable to make this current crop of stars play like a > > cohesive unit. Lord kows what the reason is, every armchair expert has > > an opinion on why. > > If I had been around longer? I've been watching World Cups since 1978. I meant around here (RSS). Most RSSers dont give two shits about what the English tabloids are saying. And to the best of my knowledge, none of England's players or coaches really built up their chances prior to the tournament as well. > I think that's long enough. So it's mostly "continentals" who have > been playing up their chances? Yes. Many marquee players identified England as one of the main contenders, as did other neutrals after their impressive qualifying campaign under Capello. > With every newspaper now on the > internet you just can't seriously say that. The English people and > press are obviously surprised by the poor performance so far. > Personally I'm not surprised. England have always been on a level > below the top teams ever since I have been watching world cups and > this team doesn't seem to be any different. Kudos to your foresight, but I dont think anyone else expected them to be this bad. > Lampard, the British > press, and many other Englishmen seem to think they are on the same > level as the top teams which is why they are so disappointed with the > performance of the team. I stand by what I say. Maybe they are just > not as good as they think they are. That much has been evident so far. But it can change very quickly with one good showing against Slovenia. Most people have short term memories.
From: JCQ on 22 Jun 2010 13:28 On Jun 22, 10:20 am, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Kudos to your foresight, but I dont think anyone else expected them to > be this bad. They drew 2 matches, just like Italy have. Not exactly loses. It could have been worse. I think with their backs against the wall we may see them perform up to their own level against Slovenia and that might be good enough to move on. I agree that it can all change very quickly. If Rooney knocks one in he might just wake up but I don't think he is half the player he was 4 or 5 years ago. They seem to have coached the originality out of him. I've seen it before with Joe Cole and Owen. They become too afraid to make mistakes or take chances.
From: RED DEVIL on 22 Jun 2010 13:41 On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:28:13 -0700 (PDT), JCQ <zelig9999(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Jun 22, 10:20�am, Alkamista <alkami...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Kudos to your foresight, but I dont think anyone else expected them to >> be this bad. > >They drew 2 matches, just like Italy have. Not exactly loses. It could >have been worse. I think with their backs against the wall we may see >them perform up to their own level against Slovenia and that might be >good enough to move on. I agree that it can all change very quickly. >If Rooney knocks one in he might just wake up but I don't think he is >half the player he was 4 or 5 years ago. They seem to have coached the >originality out of him. I've seen it before with Joe Cole and Owen. >They become too afraid to make mistakes or take chances. Rooney isn't the same player he was when he was 19? Rubbish, he's just had his best season. The player isn't 100% fit, he hasn't had the matches nor time to play himself back into full fitness. RED DEVIL
From: Bob on 22 Jun 2010 13:50 Alkamista wrote: > On Jun 22, 12:53 pm, "Bob" <B...(a)Bob.com> wrote: >> Alkamista wrote: >>> Either way, I agree they are overrated. England's recent coaches >>> have been chronically unable to make this current crop of stars >>> play like a cohesive unit. Lord kows what the reason is, every >>> armchair expert has an opinion on why. >> >> They should get a new manager and pay him 10 times what Domenech >> makes. It'll fix everything, right? > > Are you looking to clutch at every available straw in Domenech's > defense? The pointlessness of cycling through managers has been at the core of my argument for as long as we have exchanged barbs about this. Clearly you aren't a good listener.
From: JCQ on 22 Jun 2010 13:52
On Jun 22, 10:41 am, RED DEVIL <manutd1...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > Rooney isn't the same player he was when he was 19? > > Rubbish, he's just had his best season. The player isn't 100% fit, he > hasn't had the matches nor time to play himself back into full > fitness. Maybe he shouldn't be playing them. I assume that if he is on the field during the world cup then he is fit enough to play. To me he doesn't look like half the player he was at 19. Just my opinion. I only saw him a few times this year in the EPL. I do not follow Manchester United but I remember a much quicker and original player at 19 or 20 than what I see now. |