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From: Futbolmetrix on 12 May 2010 17:03
On May 12, 8:20 pm, Chagney Hunt <ess...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> They're all 4 year older, probably not as motivated or unified, but
> weren't Italy just as low key, perhaps even more doom and gloom before
> the last WC?

No, not at all. The 2006 squad had at least a couple of bona fide
stars (Totti, Del Piero) still close to their peaks, several regular
starters for teams that were perennial CL QF material (Pirlo, Gattuso,
Nesta, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Camoranesi, hey, even Materazzi), all of
them also close to their peaks, and even one of the most prolific
scorers in all of Europe (Toni). Plus Buffon.

This year there are no stars, the 2006 veterans are all way past their
prime, and our best players ply their trade for Udinese, Sampdoria,
and, alas, the joke that is Juevntus. All we have left is Buffon.

D
D


From: Chagney Hunt on 12 May 2010 17:25
On May 12, 5:03 pm, Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 8:20 pm, Chagney Hunt <ess...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > They're all 4 year older, probably not as motivated or unified, but
> > weren't Italy just as low key, perhaps even more doom and gloom before
> > the last WC?
>
> No, not at all. The 2006 squad had at least a couple of bona fide
> stars (Totti, Del Piero) still close to their peaks, several regular
> starters for teams that were perennial CL QF material (Pirlo, Gattuso,
> Nesta, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Camoranesi, hey, even Materazzi), all of
> them also close to their peaks, and even one of the most prolific
> scorers in all of Europe (Toni). Plus Buffon.

I also think this team has '86 written all over it, but Cannavarvo and
Nesta were thought of as past-it then too, Toni was unproven. Grosso,
De Rossi, and Materazzi all stepped up at crucial time. De Rossi is
still there, and Pazzini to provide the unexpected spark.


From: Abubakr on 12 May 2010 19:56
On 12 May, 22:20, Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 2:56 pm, Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Likely 23-man squad:
>
> > GK: Buffon, De Sanctis, Marchetti, Sirigu.
>
> Sirigu will be cut, but he could be the GK of the future.
>
> > DF: Bocchetti, Bonucci, Cannavaro, Cassani, Chiellini, Criscito,
> >        Grosso, Maggio, Zambrotta.
>
> Cassani most likely to be cut, Maggio maybe.

What you talking about, I just picked him for Fantasy Scout? Get rid
of Maggio or even Zambrotta instead.

> > MF: Camoranesi, Candreva, Cossu, De Rossi, Gattuso, Marchisio,
> >         Montolivo, Palombo, Pepe, Pirlo.
>
> Camoranesi, De Rossi, Gattuso, Marchisio and Pirlo  in for sure. Then
> probably Palombo and Pepe.
>
> Candreva, Cossu and Montolivo to be cut.

Would it really make much of difference who it is here that gets cut
from amongst those you think and Palombo, Pepe and Gattuso?

> > FW: Borriello, Di Natale, Gilardino, Iaquinta, Pazzini,
> >        Quagliarella, Rossi.
>
> Di Natale, Gilardino, Iaquinta in for sure. Pazzini probably with the
> advantage over Borriello, a toss-up between Quagliarella and Rossi.

I agree about Pazzini and probably Quagliarella over Rossi but neither
deserves a World Cup spot IMO.
From: Diabolik on 12 May 2010 20:07

"Futbolmetrix" <futbolmetrix(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> GK: Buffon, De Sanctis, Marchetti, Sirigu.
>
> DF: Bocchetti, Bonucci, Cannavaro, Cassani, Chiellini, Criscito,
> Grosso, Maggio, Zambrotta.
>
> MF: Camoranesi, Candreva, Cossu, De Rossi, Gattuso, Marchisio,
> Montolivo, Palombo, Pepe, Pirlo.
>
> FW: Borriello, Di Natale, Gilardino, Iaquinta, Pazzini,
> Quagliarella, Rossi.
>
> The highest this squad can reasonably expect to achieve is the QF.
> Anything more would be a huge bonus.

Thanks to Lippi.

He should have started bringing in younger players from the Confed cup.


From: Diabolik on 12 May 2010 20:13

"Futbolmetrix" <futbolmetrix(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On May 12, 2:56 pm, Futbolmetrix <futbolmet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> Likely 23-man squad:

> GK: Buffon, De Sanctis, Marchetti, Sirigu.

> Sirigu will be cut, but he could be the GK of the future.

Agreed.

> DF: Bocchetti, Bonucci, Cannavaro, Cassani, Chiellini, Criscito,
> Grosso, Maggio, Zambrotta.

> Cassani most likely to be cut, Maggio maybe.

Agreed.


> MF: Camoranesi, Candreva, Cossu, De Rossi, Gattuso, Marchisio,
> Montolivo, Palombo, Pepe, Pirlo.

> Camoranesi, De Rossi, Gattuso, Marchisio and Pirlo in for sure. Then
> probably Palombo and Pepe.

> Candreva, Cossu and Montolivo to be cut.

Not sure. He might need Pepe on the flank, and Candreva (or Cossu) is the
only tre-quartista after Pirlo.

> FW: Borriello, Di Natale, Gilardino, Iaquinta, Pazzini,
> Quagliarella, Rossi.

> Di Natale, Gilardino, Iaquinta in for sure. Pazzini probably with the
> advantage over Borriello, a toss-up between Quagliarella and Rossi.

There's a chance he might keep Pazzini and Borriello, even though they're
the same position.

Borriello has been a top gol scorer, it's unlikey he'll leave him out.


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