From: Bob on
jvazquez(a)semavenca.com wrote:
> On 1 jul, 10:14, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 30, 1:31 pm, Don speaks the truth <don200...(a)rediffmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> We know that lot of Italians, some French and many East Germans too
>>> migrated to the South Americas aprt from the widely beleived Spanish
>>> and Portuguese only.
>>
>>> Wanted to know if Messi is an Italian name..he also dosen't seem to
>>> have any Red Indian blood and looks quiet European....Maradona was
>>> he Italian too? Uruguay has Cavani who is clearly Italian and
>>> Forlan who is French. There is a Vidal too in one of the South
>>> American sides and shows that French origin players are also making
>>> their presence felt in the Latin American sides...Suarez looks like
>>> a Red Indian but Forlan and Cavani look perfectly European to
>>> me....most of the Spanish origin players look mixed with Red Indian
>>> blood but the French and italians have maintained their community
>>> identity well despite living in Latin America for generations...
>>
>>> Don
>>
>> Latin America is a mix of many races. Uruguay and Argentina have a
>> lot of people with European roots. Especially from Italy and Spain.
>> Brazil has more blacks because they had slavery. Some countries have
>> more people with mixed Indian roots. I think Maradona is a mix of
>> Italian and Indian. Messi's ancestors are Italian.
>
> I read somewhere that Maradona is a Spanish surname, with
> origin in San Pedro de Arantes, Galicia. I also thought it
> was an Italian surname. In Spanish it sounds Italian, anyway.
>
> http://www.xornal.com/artigo/2006/05/30/galicia/maradona-vendra-con-s...
>
> Juan Vazquez
>
> P.D.: blown one of my aliases... hehe

Lady of Peace? what else are you hiding :)


From: jvazquez on
On 1 jul, 13:20, jvazq...(a)semavenca.com wrote:
> On 1 jul, 10:14, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 1:31 pm, Don speaks the truth <don200...(a)rediffmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > We know that lot of Italians, some French and many East Germans too
> > > migrated to the South Americas aprt from the widely beleived Spanish
> > > and Portuguese only.
>
> > > Wanted to know if Messi is an Italian name..he also dosen't seem to
> > > have any Red Indian blood and looks quiet European....Maradona was he
> > > Italian too? Uruguay has Cavani who is clearly Italian and Forlan who
> > > is French. There is a Vidal too in one of the South American sides and
> > > shows that French  origin players are also making their presence felt
> > > in the Latin American sides...Suarez looks like a Red Indian but
> > > Forlan and Cavani look perfectly European to me....most of the Spanish
> > > origin players look mixed with Red Indian blood but the French and
> > > italians have maintained their community identity well despite living
> > > in Latin America for generations...
>
> > > Don
>
> > Latin America is a mix of many races. Uruguay and Argentina have a lot
> > of people with European roots. Especially from Italy and Spain. Brazil
> > has more blacks because they had slavery. Some countries have more
> > people with mixed Indian roots. I think Maradona is a mix of Italian
> > and Indian. Messi's ancestors are Italian.
>
> I read somewhere that Maradona is a Spanish surname, with
> origin in San Pedro de Arantes, Galicia.  I also thought it
> was an Italian surname.  In Spanish it sounds Italian, anyway.
>
> http://www.xornal.com/artigo/2006/05/30/galicia/maradona-vendra-con-s...
>

http://www.xornal.com/artigo/2006/05/30/galicia/maradona-vendra-con-sus-hijas-a-galicia-para-conocer-a-sus-posibles-antepasados/2006053019222800000.html

JV

From: Don speaks the truth on
On Jul 1, 7:14 pm, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 30, 1:31 pm, Don speaks the truth <don200...(a)rediffmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > We know that lot of Italians, some French and many East Germans too
> > migrated to the South Americas aprt from the widely beleived Spanish
> > and Portuguese only.
>
> > Wanted to know if Messi is an Italian name..he also dosen't seem to
> > have any Red Indian blood and looks quiet European....Maradona was he
> > Italian too? Uruguay has Cavani who is clearly Italian and Forlan who
> > is French. There is a Vidal too in one of the South American sides and
> > shows that French  origin players are also making their presence felt
> > in the Latin American sides...Suarez looks like a Red Indian but
> > Forlan and Cavani look perfectly European to me....most of the Spanish
> > origin players look mixed with Red Indian blood but the French and
> > italians have maintained their community identity well despite living
> > in Latin America for generations...
>
> > Don
>
> Latin America is a mix of many races. Uruguay and Argentina have a lot
> of people with European roots. Especially from Italy and Spain. Brazil
> has more blacks because they had slavery. Some countries have more
> people with mixed Indian roots. I think Maradona is a mix of Italian
> and Indian. Messi's ancestors are Italian.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Brazil has lot of whites and rich whites at that. Just look at their
economy.
But their football team has only the street born talented black
players
so it may look like Brazil is full of blacks.

I read today though that Maradona is a spanish name. Its strange coz
it sounds
so Italian and i was thinking all the time though that he is Italian.
The origin though
traces itself to North of Spain. So i assume it could be a surname in
the borders of Italy and Spain.

What i am liking though is that this world cup i am seeing people of
French origin in
South American sides like Diego Forlan. There is a Vidal too in
Paraguay, i think.

Don

From: Futbolmetrix on
"Don speaks the truth" <don2006ka(a)rediffmail.com> wrote in message
news:4df3eb29-4a66-4875-bfe6-6e032510cc67(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

> What i am liking though is that this world cup i am seeing people of
> French origin in South American sides like Diego Forlan.

Forlan is almost surely of Italian origin. Forlan or Furlan is a fairly
common name in Northeastern Italy, means "from Friuli (the region in the
Northeast of Italy, where Udine is). Some famous "furlans": Bearzot, Zoff
and Capello.

D


From: Clément on
"Lady of Peace" escreveu:

(...)
> Juan Vazquez

Hehe. I though of creating a "Slave of Peace" alias for me. Got beaten to
it. =)

Abra�o,

Luiz Mello