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From: Diabolik on 1 Jul 2010 02:38

"Don speaks the truth" <don2006ka(a)rediffmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 1, 4:44 am, "Diabolik" <diabo...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> "Don speaks the truth" <don200...(a)rediffmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:770cfc8e-eb5b-433c-a2bb-6a3dec0a463e(a)z15g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > We know that lot of Italians, some French and many East Germans too
> > migrated to the South Americas aprt from the widely beleived Spanish
> > and Portuguese only.
>
> > Wanted to know if Messi is an Italian name
>
> Yes it is.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Messi
>
> >..he also dosen't seem to
> > have any Red Indian blood and looks quiet European....Maradona was he
> > Italian too?
>
> The name is, but he's clearly a mix.

> What makes you think so?

Because he looks Indo, like Cavani.


> He or Cavani look quiet similar in looks to
> any European
> Italian.

Agreed.

> Don
>
> > Uruguay has Cavani who is clearly Italian
>
> Cavani is of indigenous and Italian
> descenthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinson_Cavani
>
> > and Forlan who
> > is French. There is a Vidal too in one of the South American sides and
> > shows that French origin players are also making their presence felt
> > in the Latin American sides...Suarez looks like a Red Indian but
> > Forlan and Cavani look perfectly European to me....most of the Spanish
> > origin players look mixed with Red Indian blood but the French and
> > italians have maintained their community identity well despite living
> > in Latin America for generations...
>
> There are 20 million people of Italian heritage in Argentina, out of 40
> million total population.


From: JCQ on 1 Jul 2010 10:14
On Jun 30, 1:31 pm, Don speaks the truth <don200...(a)rediffmail.com>
wrote:
> We know that lot of Italians, some French and many East Germans too
> migrated to the South Americas aprt from the widely beleived Spanish
> and Portuguese only.
>
> Wanted to know if Messi is an Italian name..he also dosen't seem to
> have any Red Indian blood and looks quiet European....Maradona was he
> Italian too? Uruguay has Cavani who is clearly Italian and Forlan who
> is French. There is a Vidal too in one of the South American sides and
> shows that French  origin players are also making their presence felt
> in the Latin American sides...Suarez looks like a Red Indian but
> Forlan and Cavani look perfectly European to me....most of the Spanish
> origin players look mixed with Red Indian blood but the French and
> italians have maintained their community identity well despite living
> in Latin America for generations...
>
> Don

Latin America is a mix of many races. Uruguay and Argentina have a lot
of people with European roots. Especially from Italy and Spain. Brazil
has more blacks because they had slavery. Some countries have more
people with mixed Indian roots. I think Maradona is a mix of Italian
and Indian. Messi's ancestors are Italian.
From: Paul C on 1 Jul 2010 12:55
"Don speaks the truth" <don2006ka(a)rediffmail.com> wrote in message
news:770cfc8e-eb5b-433c-a2bb-6a3dec0a463e(a)z15g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> We know that lot of Italians, some French and many East Germans too
> migrated to the South Americas aprt from the widely beleived Spanish
> and Portuguese only.

And Brits too.

Over the years, in World Cup finals, Argentina has fielded

Federico Wilde
Federico Edwards
Carlos Babington
Rene Houseman
Enrique Wolff
Hector Baley
Jose Luis Brown



From: Lady of Peace on 1 Jul 2010 13:15
On 1 jul, 10:14, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 30, 1:31 pm, Don speaks the truth <don200...(a)rediffmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > We know that lot of Italians, some French and many East Germans too
> > migrated to the South Americas aprt from the widely beleived Spanish
> > and Portuguese only.
>
> > Wanted to know if Messi is an Italian name..he also dosen't seem to
> > have any Red Indian blood and looks quiet European....Maradona was he
> > Italian too? Uruguay has Cavani who is clearly Italian and Forlan who
> > is French. There is a Vidal too in one of the South American sides and
> > shows that French  origin players are also making their presence felt
> > in the Latin American sides...Suarez looks like a Red Indian but
> > Forlan and Cavani look perfectly European to me....most of the Spanish
> > origin players look mixed with Red Indian blood but the French and
> > italians have maintained their community identity well despite living
> > in Latin America for generations...
>
> > Don
>
> Latin America is a mix of many races. Uruguay and Argentina have a lot
> of people with European roots. Especially from Italy and Spain. Brazil
> has more blacks because they had slavery. Some countries have more
> people with mixed Indian roots. I think Maradona is a mix of Italian
> and Indian. Messi's ancestors are Italian.

I read somewhere that Maradona is a Spanish surname, with
origin in San Pedro de Arantes, Galicia. I also thought it
was an Italian surname. In Spanish it sounds Italian, anyway.

http://www.xornal.com/artigo/2006/05/30/galicia/maradona-vendra-con-sus-hijas-a-galicia-para-conocer-a-sus-posibles-antepasados/2006053019222800000.html

Juan Vazquez


From: jvazquez on 1 Jul 2010 13:20
On 1 jul, 10:14, JCQ <zelig9...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 30, 1:31 pm, Don speaks the truth <don200...(a)rediffmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > We know that lot of Italians, some French and many East Germans too
> > migrated to the South Americas aprt from the widely beleived Spanish
> > and Portuguese only.
>
> > Wanted to know if Messi is an Italian name..he also dosen't seem to
> > have any Red Indian blood and looks quiet European....Maradona was he
> > Italian too? Uruguay has Cavani who is clearly Italian and Forlan who
> > is French. There is a Vidal too in one of the South American sides and
> > shows that French  origin players are also making their presence felt
> > in the Latin American sides...Suarez looks like a Red Indian but
> > Forlan and Cavani look perfectly European to me....most of the Spanish
> > origin players look mixed with Red Indian blood but the French and
> > italians have maintained their community identity well despite living
> > in Latin America for generations...
>
> > Don
>
> Latin America is a mix of many races. Uruguay and Argentina have a lot
> of people with European roots. Especially from Italy and Spain. Brazil
> has more blacks because they had slavery. Some countries have more
> people with mixed Indian roots. I think Maradona is a mix of Italian
> and Indian. Messi's ancestors are Italian.

I read somewhere that Maradona is a Spanish surname, with
origin in San Pedro de Arantes, Galicia. I also thought it
was an Italian surname. In Spanish it sounds Italian, anyway.

http://www.xornal.com/artigo/2006/05/30/galicia/maradona-vendra-con-s...

Juan Vazquez

P.D.: blown one of my aliases... hehe

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