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From: *skriptis on 27 Jun 2010 19:34

"tuan" <phamquangtuan(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>> Referee made a mistake. But not even English players protested that much
>> ie, they weren't sure it was a goal. It's life, it happens.
>
> In real life, normal people learn from their mistakes, while fools never
> learn. To argue that you must accept easily AVOIDABLE mistakes because
> that's life is an excuse for incompetence (in this case, FIFA's
> incompetence).

I think that refeere is done with refereeing in this World Cup. FIFA learned
their lesson about this guy.

I mean you people talk about technology as if the goal was few mm in. It was
almost half a meter in. you don't need technology or replays for this.
The referee was blind and it's his fault.


From: tuan on 28 Jun 2010 05:18
*skriptis wrote:
> "tuan" <phamquangtuan(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4c27da57$0$17172$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>>>Referee made a mistake. But not even English players protested that much
>>>ie, they weren't sure it was a goal. It's life, it happens.
>>
>>In real life, normal people learn from their mistakes, while fools never
>>learn. To argue that you must accept easily AVOIDABLE mistakes because
>>that's life is an excuse for incompetence (in this case, FIFA's
>>incompetence).
>
>
> I think that refeere is done with refereeing in this World Cup. FIFA learned
> their lesson about this guy.
>
> I mean you people talk about technology as if the goal was few mm in. It was
> almost half a meter in. you don't need technology or replays for this.
> The referee was blind and it's his fault.
>
>

First you said "even English players [...] weren't sure it was a goal",
then you said "It was almost half a meter in. you don't need technology
or replays for this. The referee was blind and it's his fault". Surely
both can't be true! Anyway a video replay would be a good protection
against bad refereeing, blind or not, mm or meters.
From: *skriptis on 28 Jun 2010 16:42

"tuan" <phamquangtuan(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> *skriptis wrote:
>> "tuan" <phamquangtuan(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:4c27da57$0$17172$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>>>>Referee made a mistake. But not even English players protested that much
>>>>ie, they weren't sure it was a goal. It's life, it happens.
>>>
>>>In real life, normal people learn from their mistakes, while fools never
>>>learn. To argue that you must accept easily AVOIDABLE mistakes because
>>>that's life is an excuse for incompetence (in this case, FIFA's
>>>incompetence).
>>
>>
>> I think that refeere is done with refereeing in this World Cup. FIFA
>> learned their lesson about this guy.
>>
>> I mean you people talk about technology as if the goal was few mm in. It
>> was almost half a meter in. you don't need technology or replays for
>> this.
>> The referee was blind and it's his fault.
>
> First you said "even English players [...] weren't sure it was a goal",
> then you said "It was almost half a meter in. you don't need technology or
> replays for this. The referee was blind and it's his fault". Surely both
> can't be true! Anyway a video replay would be a good protection against
> bad refereeing, blind or not, mm or meters.


I don't know what's causing this confusion in your head?

The goal itself, even though clearly in, wasn't that obvious, otherwise more
players would have protested, more decisevely.

Given the fact it was an obvious goal, referee made a terrible mistake, ie,
he was blind. But it's his job to see it, not the players'.


From: Opry phantom on 28 Jun 2010 18:26
On Jun 28, 1:42 pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...(a)post.t-com.hr> wrote:
> "tuan" <phamquangt...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> news:4c2868ec$0$17178$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
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>
>
>
>
> > *skriptis wrote:
> >> "tuan" <phamquangt...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> >>news:4c27da57$0$17172$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>
> >>>>Referee made a mistake. But not even English players protested that much
> >>>>ie, they weren't sure it was a goal. It's life, it happens.
>
> >>>In real life, normal people learn from their mistakes, while fools never
> >>>learn. To argue that you must accept easily AVOIDABLE mistakes because
> >>>that's life is an excuse for incompetence (in this case, FIFA's
> >>>incompetence).
>
> >> I think that refeere is done with refereeing in this World Cup. FIFA
> >> learned their lesson about this guy.
>
> >> I mean you people talk about technology as if the goal was few mm in. It
> >> was almost half a meter in. you don't need technology or replays for
> >> this.
> >> The referee was blind and it's his fault.
>
> > First you said "even English players [...] weren't sure it was a goal",
> > then you said "It was almost half a meter in. you don't need technology or
> > replays for this. The referee was blind and it's his fault". Surely both
> > can't be true! Anyway a video replay would be a good protection against
> > bad refereeing, blind or not, mm or meters.
>
>  I don't know what's causing this confusion in your head?
>
> The goal itself, even though clearly in, wasn't that obvious, otherwise more
> players would have protested, more decisevely.
>
> Given the fact it was an obvious goal, referee made a terrible mistake, ie,
> he was blind. But it's his job to see it, not the players'.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Now now lads, perhaps 'is eyes were tired.
From: tuan on 28 Jun 2010 20:59
*skriptis wrote:

> "tuan" <phamquangtuan(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4c2868ec$0$17178$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>>*skriptis wrote:
>>
>>>"tuan" <phamquangtuan(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>news:4c27da57$0$17172$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Referee made a mistake. But not even English players protested that much
>>>>>ie, they weren't sure it was a goal. It's life, it happens.
>>>>
>>>>In real life, normal people learn from their mistakes, while fools never
>>>>learn. To argue that you must accept easily AVOIDABLE mistakes because
>>>>that's life is an excuse for incompetence (in this case, FIFA's
>>>>incompetence).
>>>
>>>
>>>I think that refeere is done with refereeing in this World Cup. FIFA
>>>learned their lesson about this guy.
>>>
>>>I mean you people talk about technology as if the goal was few mm in. It
>>>was almost half a meter in. you don't need technology or replays for
>>>this.
>>>The referee was blind and it's his fault.
>>
>>First you said "even English players [...] weren't sure it was a goal",
>>then you said "It was almost half a meter in. you don't need technology or
>>replays for this. The referee was blind and it's his fault". Surely both
>>can't be true! Anyway a video replay would be a good protection against
>>bad refereeing, blind or not, mm or meters.
>
>
>
> I don't know what's causing this confusion in your head?
>
> The goal itself, even though clearly in, wasn't that obvious, otherwise more
> players would have protested, more decisevely.
>
> Given the fact it was an obvious goal, referee made a terrible mistake, ie,
> he was blind. But it's his job to see it, not the players'.
>

First you said "The goal itself [...] wasn't that obvious", then you
said "it was an obvious goal". I'm afraid the confusion wasn't in my
head! :)

Anyway, the fact that the referee wasn't doing his job is a strong
argument for technological help. If all referees were doing their job
well then there's hardly a need for technology.
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