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From: Quincy on 4 Jul 2010 11:48
Hungary 1954:

QF Brazil
SF Uruguay (yet unbeaten defending Champion)
F Germany .... LOST


France 1986:

R16: Italy (defending Champion)
QF: Brazil
SF: Germany .... LOST


Germany 2010:

R16: England
QF: Argentina
SF: Spain (European Champion) ... LOST???


The quintessence is that, despite being the best team and beating the
hardest opponents in their paths at the end it looks always like they
are doomed to lose??!

Discuss!
From: Calimero on 4 Jul 2010 11:52
On 4 Jul., 17:48, Quincy <ab...(a)email.de> wrote:
> Hungary 1954:
>
> QF Brazil
> SF Uruguay (yet unbeaten defending Champion)
> F Germany .... LOST
>
> France 1986:
>
> R16: Italy (defending Champion)
> QF: Brazil
> SF: Germany .... LOST
>
> Germany 2010:
>
> R16: England
> QF: Argentina
> SF: Spain (European Champion) ... LOST???
>
> The quintessence is that, despite being the best team and beating the
> hardest opponents in their paths at the end it looks always like they
> are doomed to lose??!
>
> Discuss!


54 Hungary and 86 France had one disadvantage - they had to play
Germany at the end of their runs.
Can't happen to Germany.


Max
From: stephenj on 4 Jul 2010 11:56
Calimero wrote:
> On 4 Jul., 17:48, Quincy <ab...(a)email.de> wrote:
>> Hungary 1954:
>>
>> QF Brazil
>> SF Uruguay (yet unbeaten defending Champion)
>> F Germany .... LOST
>>
>> France 1986:
>>
>> R16: Italy (defending Champion)
>> QF: Brazil
>> SF: Germany .... LOST
>>
>> Germany 2010:
>>
>> R16: England
>> QF: Argentina
>> SF: Spain (European Champion) ... LOST???
>>
>> The quintessence is that, despite being the best team and beating the
>> hardest opponents in their paths at the end it looks always like they
>> are doomed to lose??!
>>
>> Discuss!
>
>
> 54 Hungary and 86 France had one disadvantage - they had to play
> Germany at the end of their runs.
> Can't happen to Germany.

True, and Germany doesn't have to play Brazil. But if Germany wins this
it will be an amazing run.



--
The Constitution does not prohibit legislatures from
enacting stupid laws.

- Thurgood Marshall
From: forssberg on 4 Jul 2010 12:08
On Jul 4, 11:56 am, stephenj <sjar...(a)cox.com> wrote:
> Calimero wrote:
> > On 4 Jul., 17:48, Quincy <ab...(a)email.de> wrote:
> >> Hungary 1954:
>
> >> QF Brazil
> >> SF Uruguay (yet unbeaten defending Champion)
> >> F Germany .... LOST
>
> >> France 1986:
>
> >> R16: Italy (defending Champion)
> >> QF: Brazil
> >> SF: Germany .... LOST
>
> >> Germany 2010:
>
> >> R16: England
> >> QF: Argentina
> >> SF: Spain (European Champion) ... LOST???
>
> >> The quintessence is that, despite being the best team and beating the
> >> hardest opponents in their paths at the end it looks always like they
> >> are doomed to lose??!
>
> >> Discuss!
>
> > 54 Hungary and 86 France had one disadvantage - they had to play
> > Germany at the end of their runs.
> > Can't happen to Germany.
>
> True, and Germany doesn't have to play Brazil. But if Germany wins this
> it will be an amazing run.
>
> --
> The Constitution does not prohibit legislatures from
> enacting stupid laws.
>
> - Thurgood Marshall- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The problem in playing great teams back to back is that attrition can
cause a progressive a loss of quality to the squad. Just look at
Germany, Muller is lost through suspension and Ozil looked to be at
75% capacity vs Argentina.
From: Gerrit Stolte on 4 Jul 2010 12:13
On Jul 4, 5:48 pm, Quincy <ab...(a)email.de> wrote:
> Hungary 1954:
>
> QF Brazil
> SF Uruguay (yet unbeaten defending Champion)
> F Germany .... LOST
>
> France 1986:
>
> R16: Italy (defending Champion)
> QF: Brazil
> SF: Germany .... LOST
>
> Germany 2010:
>
> R16: England
> QF: Argentina
> SF: Spain (European Champion) ... LOST???
>
> The quintessence is that, despite being the best team and beating the
> hardest opponents in their paths at the end it looks always like they
> are doomed to lose??!
>
> Discuss!

1982 Italy ....

Argentina, Brazil, Germany, and a very good polish side
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