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From: milivella on 19 Jun 2010 02:35 Jesper Lauridsen: > On 2010-06-15, milivella <milive...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Jesper Lauridsen: > > >> Where do the 736 players play? > > >> 117 England > >> 85 Germany > >> 80 Italy > > > [snip] > > > Chances are that you can reply in less than one minute (if it's not > > the case, forget about it): what happens if you weight each player, > > using as weight the chances to win the cup that RSS collective mind > > has assigned to his NT? > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/de4fff7751bf828e > > E.g. each Spanish player counts 0.1893, each North Korean 0.0033. > > That does change things around a bit: Thanks a lot. You are awesome! > Spain 5.2821 > England 4.8841 > Italy 3.5464 > Germany 3.2153 > Netherlands 1.1096 > France 0.9043 > Portugal 0.7340 > Argentina 0.6813 > Brazil 0.4619 It looks even better than before, doesn't it? > When I was just counting players, 75% were UEFA based. In this "quality" > index, 91% are UEFA based. 91% berths to UEFA! ;) > Top-25 for clubs: > > Barcelona 1.6766 > Real Madrid 1.3522 > Liverpool 1.1096 > Bayern Munich 0.9063 > Valencia 0.8080 > Internazionale 0.7763 > Chelsea 0.6261 > Roma 0.6010 > Tottenham 0.5841 > Manchester City 0.5371 > Hamburg 0.5253 > Juventus 0.4956 > Arsenal 0.4709 > Benfica 0.4456 > Milan 0.4203 > Manchester U 0.3982 The 10-big-clubs-that-everybody-cites-as-powerhouses (the English ex- big-4, the 3 Italian Northern teams, Barca+Real and Bayern) are all in the top 16. And the other 6 clubs, with the exception of Hamburg, are arguably among the almost-powerhouses or powerhouses-that-will-be. These top 16 teams own more than 50% of the quality at the WC (11.73 out of 23.00). -- Cheers milivella
From: Jesper Lauridsen on 23 Jun 2010 11:22 On 2010-06-19, milivella <milivella(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Jesper Lauridsen: > >> On 2010-06-15, milivella <milive...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Jesper Lauridsen: >> >> >> Where do the 736 players play? >> >> >> 117 England >> >> 85 Germany >> >> 80 Italy >> >> > [snip] >> >> > Chances are that you can reply in less than one minute (if it's not >> > the case, forget about it): what happens if you weight each player, >> > using as weight the chances to win the cup that RSS collective mind >> > has assigned to his NT? >> >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/de4fff7751bf828e >> > E.g. each Spanish player counts 0.1893, each North Korean 0.0033. >> >> That does change things around a bit: > > Thanks a lot. You are awesome! > >> Spain 5.2821 >> England 4.8841 >> Italy 3.5464 >> Germany 3.2153 >> Netherlands 1.1096 >> France 0.9043 >> Portugal 0.7340 >> Argentina 0.6813 >> Brazil 0.4619 > > It looks even better than before, doesn't it? I also did one with the number of caps factored in, but that didn't change anything. After the group stage, I'll do a list based on WC points. >> When I was just counting players, 75% were UEFA based. In this "quality" >> index, 91% are UEFA based. > > 91% berths to UEFA! ;) We better get a third opinion. I wonder what anders would say. >> Top-25 for clubs: >> >> Barcelona 1.6766 >> Real Madrid 1.3522 >> Liverpool 1.1096 >> Bayern Munich 0.9063 >> Valencia 0.8080 >> Internazionale 0.7763 >> Chelsea 0.6261 >> Roma 0.6010 >> Tottenham 0.5841 >> Manchester City 0.5371 >> Hamburg 0.5253 >> Juventus 0.4956 >> Arsenal 0.4709 >> Benfica 0.4456 >> Milan 0.4203 >> Manchester U 0.3982 > > The 10-big-clubs-that-everybody-cites-as-powerhouses (the English ex- > big-4, the 3 Italian Northern teams, Barca+Real and Bayern) are all in > the top 16. And the other 6 clubs, with the exception of Hamburg, are > arguably among the almost-powerhouses or powerhouses-that-will-be. The credibility of the club list is hurt by the ranking of Man Utd.
From: El Kot on 23 Jun 2010 12:36 Jesper Lauridsen wrote: > On 2010-06-19, milivella <milivella(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Jesper Lauridsen: >>> On 2010-06-15, milivella <milive...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Jesper Lauridsen: >>> >>>>> Where do the 736 players play? >>>>> 117 England >>>>> 85 Germany >>>>> 80 Italy >>>> [snip] >>>> Chances are that you can reply in less than one minute (if it's not >>>> the case, forget about it): what happens if you weight each player, >>>> using as weight the chances to win the cup that RSS collective mind >>>> has assigned to his NT? >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.soccer/msg/de4fff7751bf828e >>>> E.g. each Spanish player counts 0.1893, each North Korean 0.0033. >>> That does change things around a bit: >> Thanks a lot. You are awesome! >> >>> Spain 5.2821 >>> England 4.8841 >>> Italy 3.5464 >>> Germany 3.2153 >>> Netherlands 1.1096 >>> France 0.9043 >>> Portugal 0.7340 >>> Argentina 0.6813 >>> Brazil 0.4619 >> It looks even better than before, doesn't it? > > I also did one with the number of caps factored in, but that didn't change > anything. > > After the group stage, I'll do a list based on WC points. > >>> When I was just counting players, 75% were UEFA based. In this "quality" >>> index, 91% are UEFA based. >> 91% berths to UEFA! ;) > > We better get a third opinion. I wonder what anders would say. Do all WC's always in Europe. :) >>> Top-25 for clubs: >>> >>> Barcelona 1.6766 >>> Real Madrid 1.3522 >>> Liverpool 1.1096 >>> Bayern Munich 0.9063 >>> Valencia 0.8080 >>> Internazionale 0.7763 >>> Chelsea 0.6261 >>> Roma 0.6010 >>> Tottenham 0.5841 >>> Manchester City 0.5371 >>> Hamburg 0.5253 >>> Juventus 0.4956 >>> Arsenal 0.4709 >>> Benfica 0.4456 >>> Milan 0.4203 >>> Manchester U 0.3982 >> The 10-big-clubs-that-everybody-cites-as-powerhouses (the English ex- >> big-4, the 3 Italian Northern teams, Barca+Real and Bayern) are all in >> the top 16. And the other 6 clubs, with the exception of Hamburg, are >> arguably among the almost-powerhouses or powerhouses-that-will-be. > > The credibility of the club list is hurt by the ranking of Man Utd. -- No, no, you can't e-mail me with the nono.
From: Werner Pichler on 30 Jun 2010 05:54 On 16 Jun., 01:29, Jesper Lauridsen <rorsc...(a)sorrystofanet.dk> wrote: > On 2010-06-10, milivella <milive...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Jesper Lauridsen: > > >> Where do the 736 players play? > > > Very interesting. Thanks a lot! > > One statistic I would like to see, is where the starting players play. > Team, league, confederation. With stats for both the first round and > for the round of 16. > Here are the stats for the round of 16: The starting players in June 2010 played in: England 36 Germany 28 Spain 28 Italy 12 France 10 Japan 9 Mexico 9 Portugal 9 Netherlands 8 South Korea 4 Argentina 3 Russia 3 Turkey 3 United States 3 Greece 2 Chile 1 Czech Republic 1 Norway 1 Paraguay 1 Poland 1 Saudi-Arabia 1 Scotland 1 Switzerland 1 Uruguay 1 UEFA: 144 (81,8% / +1,4% compared to the 1st round of group matches) AFC: 14 (8,0% / +0,3%) CONCACAF: 12 (6,8% / +2,5%) CONMEBOL: 6 (3,4% / +0,3%) CAF: 0 (-2,6%) OFC: 0 (-1,1%) Unattached: 0 (-0,9%) Clubs with most players in starting XI in the round of 16: Barcelona 8 (-1 compared to the 1st round of group matches) Liverpool 7 (+1) Bayern München 7 (-1) Real Madrid 7 (+-0) Manchester City 5 (+2) Chelsea 4 (-5) Inter 4 (-3) Porto 4 (+1) Benfica 4 (+-0) Ciao, Werner
From: Werner Pichler on 30 Jun 2010 06:35 On 30 Jun., 12:11, anders t <anthu_001(a)no_-_spam_.hotmail.com> wrote: > Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer: > > >Liverpool 7 (+1) > > You'd really think they'd place a bit better in the EPL. > It's curious to think that Manchester United had exactly the same number of starting players as Wigan and Portsmouth (4 in the 1st round, 2 in the round of 16). Ciao, Werner
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