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From: JCQ on 8 Jul 2010 20:55
People like to talk about the negatives of this world cup but there
are 2 key things that have made this the most believable and fairest
world cup ever. Number one is that the home team was not helped by the
refs. In the past the refs have favored the home sides so much that it
made many people think that any match could be fixed or influenced.
Number two is that the big teams and past winners were always favored
when facing weaker sides. A last minute penalty call, a non call on a
clear penalty, or just tilting the field by calling more fouls against
the other team. In this tournament the refs were not perfect but they
were fair. Paraguay had a penalty called for them against Spain!
France, Italy, and South Africa, did not make it out of the first
round! A penalty was actually called against the home team in the
group stage! Brazil had to play without any extra help from the refs.
Kaka even got a red card on a questionable call! In the past the bad
calls and bad luck usually went to the underdogs alone.

Have FIFA made an effort to make the world cup more fair? I don't
think all these things are a coincidence. It's nice that all of the
teams were finally treated equally.
From: The Scrutineer on 8 Jul 2010 21:06
> People like to talk about the negatives of this world cup but there
> are 2 key things that have made this the most believable and fairest
> world cup ever. Number one is that the home team was not helped by the
> refs. In the past the refs have favored the home sides so much that it
> made many people think that any match could be fixed or influenced.
> Number two is that the big teams and past winners were always favored
> when facing weaker sides. A last minute penalty call, a non call on a
> clear penalty, or just tilting the field by calling more fouls against
> the other team. In this tournament the refs were not perfect but they
> were fair. Paraguay had a penalty called for them against Spain!
> France, Italy, and South Africa, did not make it out of the first
> round! A penalty was actually called against the home team in the
> group stage! Brazil had to play without any extra help from the refs.
> Kaka even got a red card on a questionable call! In the past the bad
> calls and bad luck usually went to the underdogs alone.
>
> Have FIFA made an effort to make the world cup more fair? I don't
> think all these things are a coincidence. It's nice that all of the
> teams were finally treated equally.

Depends on which side of the fence you are on, for me, the inconsistencies
of awarding cards have been very consistent, and for the old saying
*everything levels out by the end* I can name 4-5 teams that are out of the
WC who are still waiting for their luck to breakeven!!!

From: gsn on 8 Jul 2010 21:24
On Jul 8, 9:06 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
> > People like to talk about the negatives of this world cup but there
> > are 2 key things that have made this the most believable and fairest
> > world cup ever. Number one is that the home team was not helped by the
> > refs. In the past the refs have favored the home sides so much that it
> > made many people think that any match could be fixed or influenced.
> > Number two is that the big teams and past winners were always favored
> > when facing weaker sides. A last minute penalty call, a non call on a
> > clear penalty, or just tilting the field by calling more fouls against
> > the other team. In this tournament the refs were not perfect but they
> > were fair. Paraguay had a penalty called for them against Spain!
> > France, Italy, and South Africa, did not make it out of the first
> > round! A penalty was actually called against the home team in the
> > group stage! Brazil had to play without any extra help from the refs.
> > Kaka even got a red card on a questionable call! In the past the bad
> > calls and bad luck usually went to the underdogs alone.
>
> > Have FIFA made an effort to make the world cup more fair? I don't
> > think all these things are a coincidence. It's nice that all of the
> > teams were finally treated equally.
>
> Depends on which side of the fence you are on, for me, the inconsistencies
> of awarding cards have been very consistent, and for the old saying
> *everything levels out by the end* I can name 4-5 teams that are out of the
> WC who are still waiting for their luck to breakeven!!!

Depends on how you define "end" . It may span over several WCs.
Germany had to wait for 44 years for England to get the "over the goal
line" non-call! .
(I know it is hard to see virtue in patience when your team is losing
current WC because of a bad call/non-call! )

gsn
From: Mehdi on 9 Jul 2010 10:14
> Subject : Fairest world cup ever!
> From : vlade4(a)bigpond.com

> Depends on which side of the fence you are on, for me, the
> inconsistencies of awarding cards have been very consistent, and for the
> old saying *everything levels out by the end* I can name 4-5 teams that
> are out of the WC who are still waiting for their luck to breakeven!!!

The only positive was the officiating during the group stages. In the
knockout stages the officiating has been awful and it's no coincidence
that the two finalists are the teams who have benefited most from
favourable calls, especially Spain :

1. Casillas foul on Derdiyok - no red card, no penalty
2. Villa slaps Izaguirre in the face, no card
3. Dive by Torres to get Estrada sent off
4. Dive and playacting by Capdevilla to get Costa sent off
5. Pique two handed foul on Cardozo, yellow card
6. Spanish encroach on three penalties against Paraguay
7. Ramos trips Ozil
8. Ramos stamps on Podolski, no card, should have been a second yellow

Van Bommel committed half a dozen yellow card fouls against Brazil and
should have been sent off for a leg breaking foul on Gargano 18 minutes
into the Uruguay match.


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From: Quincy on 9 Jul 2010 10:30
On 9 Jul., 16:14, Mehdi <Be...(a)soccer-europe.com> wrote:

> that the two finalists are the teams who have benefited most from
> favourable calls, especially Spain :
>
> 1. Casillas foul on Derdiyok - no red card, no penalty
> 2. Villa slaps Izaguirre in the face, no card
> 3. Dive by Torres to get Estrada sent off
> 4. Dive and playacting by Capdevilla to get Costa sent off
> 5. Pique two handed foul on Cardozo, yellow card
> 6. Spanish encroach on three penalties against Paraguay
> 7. Ramos trips Ozil
> 8. Ramos stamps on Podolski, no card, should have been a second yellow

9. Ridicilus carding against T. Müller in order to take him out
against Spain. Looks like it worked out perfectly.

> Van Bommel committed half a dozen yellow card fouls against Brazil and
> should have been sent off for a leg breaking foul on Gargano 18 minutes
> into the Uruguay match.

Van Bommel looks like an angel with his curled hair. So you can't be
mad at him.
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