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From: The Scrutineer on 14 Jul 2010 12:54 >>The trophy cabinet is the same as it was five years ago, yes, but that >>is not an automatic indication of 'zero success', and you know it. It >>wasn't spending that kicked Eduardo out of the season and Arsenal just >>barely out of the title that year. Etc. There are more than a few big >>clubs all chasing the same prize(s)... can't all of them win all the >>time; that's just simple mathematics. > > That's all well and good, but how can you claim that Arsenal are not > in debt? > RED DEVIL Arsenal are 135m pounds in debt, which if current standards are kept, will be debt free within 3-5 seasons, making debt at Arsenal a non issue as those standards have been maintaind from the word go, until the last letter I type in this post, and until it clears. I personally have never said Arsenal are not in debt, just maintained that debt is NOT an issue at Arsenal, as other contriubutors here also tend to agree/enhance upon!!!
From: The Scrutineer on 14 Jul 2010 12:56 "RED DEVIL" <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:s3qr365c3d3j1b03mf69snvhtfvqf7pjd6(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:04:03 +1000, "The Scrutineer" > <vlade4(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > >> >> >>"RED DEVIL" <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message >>news:j6gq3615ocgg0l9rl81f07m6f0hinouoi8(a)4ax.com... >>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:43:37 +1000, "The Scrutineer" >>> <vlade4(a)bigpond.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>"Manx Gunner" <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> wrote in message >>>>news:MPG.26a71c62726bf563989834(a)news.giganews.com... >>>>> [RED DEVIL <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net>] >>>>> [Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:34:41 -0400] >>>>> >>>>> : >Debt is no issue at Arsenal!!! >>>>> : >>>>> : It's very much an issue and is the main reason that they have won >>>>> : nothing for the last 5 years. >>>>> >>>>> It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, RD... it's not true. >>>>> >>>>> Worry about your own version of Leeds 2 up there in Manchester. >>>> >>>>Debt is no issue at Arsenal, and indeed it is in Manchester!!! >>>> -- >>>>> "Look at the way teams play against Arsenal. They don't believe they >>>>> can win. They don't believe." -- Jose Mourinho >>>> >>>>Damn I love that quote!!! >>> >>> If debt is no issue at Arsenal then the board needs to fire Wenger >>> since he's brought zero success the last 6 years. >>> >>> RED DEVIL >> >>You dont understand!!! >> >>Become an Arsenal member, watch the AGM, your view on Arsenal will >>change!!! > > No thanks, I'll stay with United thanks. I know they are in debt and > accept that as a fact, it's a shame Arsenal fans seem to gloss over > the fact that they are also in debt. > RED DEVIL I am a Man Utd online member, it never hurts being a football supporter first and foremost before you set allegiences to a team!!! Arsenal are in debt, but fortunately its not an issue!!!
From: The Scrutineer on 14 Jul 2010 13:03 "RED DEVIL" <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:rfqr36tu3smqbff9pmu3nodtjb4ahe3b5k(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:42:40 -0700 (PDT), Google Beta User > <wanyikuli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>On Jul 14, 12:45 am, RED DEVIL <manutd1...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >>> >Damn I love that quote!!! >>> >>> If debt is no issue at Arsenal then the board needs to fire Wenger >>> since he's brought zero success the last 6 years. >> >>Clubs don't exist in a vacuum. >> >>Abramovich/Mourinho arrived, and SAF hasn't gone anywhere. >> >>It's not just a matter of money. >> > It is when a club desperately needs players but can't go out and get > them because they are in so much debt > RED DEVIL Are you willing to spend 50m pounds on a desperately needed player like Benzema? Or keep blooding someone like Macheda?
From: The Scrutineer on 14 Jul 2010 13:12 "RED DEVIL" <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:tcqr36phgg0lvd4rtm2gbf1g6rpgd2mg5j(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:02:10 +0200, Mart van de Wege > <mvdwege(a)mail.com> wrote: > >>Manx Gunner <goal(a)4thegunners!.com> writes: >> >>> [RED DEVIL <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net>] >>> [Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:47:27 -0400] >>> >>> : >: It's very much an issue and is the main reason that they have won >>> : >: nothing for the last 5 years. >>> : > >>> : >It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, RD... it's not true. >>> : > >>> : >Worry about your own version of Leeds 2 up there in Manchester. >>> >>> : You should read your clubs accounts when they post. like it or not >>> : Arsenal are indeed in debt and have been for about 6 years. Putting >>> : your fingers in your ears and shouting loud won't make this go away. >>> >>> The debt consists pretty much entirely of the stadium mortgage, and has >>> been managed well from the first day it was added to the books. >>> >>Here's another thing: the absolute value of the debt doesn't >>matter. What matters if revenues can cover the interest. >> >>Mart > > Which is exactly the argument that Manchester United makes > RED DEVIL Those revenues which wont consist of 5 Ronaldo's over the next 5 seasons to cover those interests, nor the prize money usually associated with Man Utd as other *powers* rise!!! The size of that stadium is the sole reason for Manchester United's success alone!!! In my opinion in which is absolutely deserving!!!
From: Manx Gunner on 14 Jul 2010 13:39
[RED DEVIL <manutd11XX(a)bellsouth.net>] [Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:47:29 -0400] : It is when a club desperately needs players but can't go out and get : them because they are in so much debt That situation exists solely in your mind. -- "Look at the way teams play against Arsenal. They don't believe they can win. They don't believe." -- Jose Mourinho |