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From: Bob on 13 Jul 2010 01:24 The Scrutineer wrote: > "Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> wrote in message > news:8a298vF2asU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> The Scrutineer wrote: >>> "Mark V." <markvanderv1(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:d86dacad-ac4d-40aa-974a-ee3f77ee65d7(a)m17g2000prl.googlegroups.com... >>>> On Jul 12, 7:49 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: >>>>>>> But he will return to Catalyuna at some point. >>>>> >>>>>> Well that seems to be his dream. >>>>> >>>>> What worries me more than his dream is an opening day defeat to >>>>> Liverpool, >>>>> then he realises its the same old Arsenal and asks for a >>>>> transfer!!! >>>>> >>>>> Fix the team WENGER!!! >>>> >>>> An opening day defeat to the current Liverpool would be an absolute >>>> disaster! >>> >>> An absolute disaster would be the understatement of the decade so >>> far!!! >>> >>> If Almunia is our number one next season, I will refuse to watch all >>> matches containing the Spaniard!!! A note on Manuel, I read the >>> stupidest rumour yesterday, in which, it suggested that Atletico >>> Madrid were about to bid for Manuel, which made me delighted only to >>> realise that they have the THREE best young keepers of any squad in >>> the world in Sergio Asenjo, David de Gea and Joel Robles, surely >>> they are not stupid!!! >>> >>> I can confirm that Fiorentina have signed Artur Boruc from Celic in >>> the last 24 hours, which might suggest that Frey is on his way out, >>> now I'm not suggesting he is Arsenal bound, or if we might bid for >>> him, but he would be way better than the entire goal keeping >>> fraternity at Arsenal, including the coaches!!! >> >> Frey would be nice but he is no spring chicken so it'd be a short >> term fix. >> > > He is 30 from memory, and for a keeper, 30 is a relatively young age, > and for mine could provide 4-5 years of quality service before he > begins to decline. I think you are being overly optimisitc. For example, Buffon is 32 and he started to decline one year ago? frey being not the most exemplary physical specimen shouldn't be expected to last forever. > > Which is 4-5 years more than Almunia ever has provided, or would > provide. I would say Almunia has provided about 270 minutes of fine > goal keeping in his Arsenal career to date!!! You are being too harsh. Without ever being an exceptional keeper Almunia did a decent job for a while. Which in turn is about > 270 minutes more than Fabianski, and if I may, Silvestre and Senderos > too!!! > > Glad the latter two are GONE!!! Sylvestre was utterly cheap and fitted very well in the low expense scheme.
From: The Scrutineer on 13 Jul 2010 01:35 "Mark V." <markvanderv1(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4dfbe408-16ec-428c-92f3-9cc8957f995a(a)k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 12, 9:33 pm, "The Scrutineer" <vla...(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > ! >> >> I can confirm that Fiorentina have signed Artur Boruc from Celic in the >> last >> 24 hours, which might suggest that Frey is on his way out, now I'm not >> suggesting he is Arsenal bound, or if we might bid for him, but he would >> be >> way better than the entire goal keeping fraternity at Arsenal, including >> the >> coaches!!! > > Some fans seem really bullish on Szczęsny, though it may be a few > years before he's ready. Most of which have never actually seen him play!!! And most of whom are impressed by his physical appearance alone which in turn makes him a great keeper. You are 100% right in it possibly taking a few years before he is ready, but for me I would throw him straight in knowing we lose absolutely nothing if we do!!! Keepers linked with Arsenal in the past few months. Frey (France) Possibly on the move 5/10 Schwarzer (Australia) Our seemingly number one target as a player then coach 9/10 (Big game flop but decent and better than what we have) Reina (Spain) Re-signed since the rumour surfaced 0/10 Lloris (France) Price will turn us off 0/10 Mandanda (France) Asking Price will turn us off 0/10 Jaaskelainen (Finland) A yearly addition to this list, wont happen, he cant catch 0/10 Sorensen (Denmark) A reliable keeper prone to big game errors 3/10- Hart (England) A great addition if we can buy him 3/10 Eduardo (Portugal) Signed with Genoa since rumour 0/10 Romero (Argenrina) Decent and no better 0/10 Robinson (England) 2nd worst rumour of the summer 0/10 Boruc (Poland) Signed with Fiorentina 0/10 Handanovic (Slovenia) Good prospect, tall commanding yet unproven 2/10 Green (England) Good keeper, forever banished to footballing hell 0/10 http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Arsenal-keeper-Manuel-Almunia-set-for-Atletico-Madrid-switch/8755/ Whoever made that clip should be commended on supporting a dud!!!
From: Bob on 13 Jul 2010 01:39 The Scrutineer wrote: > "Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> wrote in message > news:8a28dgFtopU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> The Scrutineer wrote: >>> "Bob" <Bob(a)Bob.com> wrote in message >>> news:8a25q1FhhiU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> The Scrutineer wrote: >>>>>>> But he will return to Catalyuna at some point. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well that seems to be his dream. >>>>> >>>>> What worries me more than his dream is an opening day defeat to >>>>> Liverpool, then he realises its the same old Arsenal and asks for >>>>> a transfer!!! >>>>> >>>>> Fix the team WENGER!!! >>>> >>>> Wenger knows that these are no times to go into (further) debt. >>>> >>> >>> Debt is no issue at Arsenal!!! >> >> Yes and no. Definitely no if we go into a depression as it seems >> likely OECD >> nations (including England) are doing. Also note, that the debt >> situation isn't worse than it is in part because of Wenger's >> recruiting policies. >> > > The past few years have been tough economic times we can agree upon, Much worse is to come, unfortunately. As you mention below Arsenal did very well so far to diminish its debt although I am not sure whether they assumed the financing for these sold condos. > but the debt over those year has fallen from 350m pounds to about > 130m odd as of the 2009 financial report which is able to be viewed > on Arsenal.com to its members. > > If that balance is to be maintained, debt will be no problem > regardless of worse times ahead and debt will be completely cleared > within five years !!! > > What needs to be maintained, > 1. 60 000 a week filling the Emirates > 2. Shrewd player recruiting/retention policy > 3. Sponsorship/Advertising > 4. Board agendas/conflict (I say this because the uncertain nature of > takeovers has actually forced the club to be shrewd in expenditure, > rather than open slather Chelsea/Man City style) > 5. Season ticket pricing freeze!!! > > If rumours are to be believed, Clichy, van Persie, Sagna and Fabregas > are targets for other clubs, I have no doubt that if those players > were to be sold (which the wont be) 100m pounds is the minumun > return, which in itself could make Arsenal debt free. Man, i hope they don't sell all of the above considering all the injuries htey suffered in recent years.
From: The Scrutineer on 13 Jul 2010 01:47 >> He is 30 from memory, and for a keeper, 30 is a relatively young age, >> and for mine could provide 4-5 years of quality service before he >> begins to decline. > > I think you are being overly optimisitc. For example, Buffon is 32 and he > started to decline one year ago? frey being not the most exemplary > physical > specimen shouldn't be expected to last forever. May be so, Buffon hasn't declined in ability, just a case of injuries starting to rule!!! But I do struggle to find a lot of keepers who once past 30 hit a purple patch. Obvious exceptions are keepers like Freidel, Kahn, Van der Sar, and a few others, but they are extremely rare!!! You do realise I will settle for anything better than an open goal at the moment!!! :-) >> Which is 4-5 years more than Almunia ever has provided, or would >> provide. I would say Almunia has provided about 270 minutes of fine >> goal keeping in his Arsenal career to date!!! > > You are being too harsh. Without ever being an exceptional keeper Almunia > did a decent job for a while. Maybe I am, but the moment we are unable to defend a situation for whatever reason, it sends chills down my spine knowing he is the last line of defence, and cant be relied upon at all!!! He served well, without being exceptional as you mention!!! > Which in turn is about >> 270 minutes more than Fabianski, and if I may, Silvestre and Senderos >> too!!! >> >> Glad the latter two are GONE!!! > > Sylvestre was utterly cheap and fitted very well in the low expense > scheme. > You do know he was in the second bracket of earners, which is 50 000 plus!!! Which more than makes his 750 000 transfer fee seem really expensive!!! I look at it this way, he provided good cover as 4th or 5th backup, his very poor performances led to consecutive UCL latter stage KO's, two of his three goals were crucuial in the matches, But to think of all the players who would have signed a two year deal for 50 000 a week is frightening compared to what we wasted it on!! Any player who we should be looking at, more so position that require a look into?
From: The Scrutineer on 13 Jul 2010 01:57
>> If rumours are to be believed, Clichy, van Persie, Sagna and Fabregas >> are targets for other clubs, I have no doubt that if those players >> were to be sold (which the wont be) 100m pounds is the minumun >> return, which in itself could make Arsenal debt free. > > Man, i hope they don't sell all of the above considering all the injuries > htey suffered in recent years. > Me too. the injury situation in the past few seasons has been nothing short of shocking, I wish no ill health to anyone, but any EPL team that claims they have had no luck with injuries obviously hasn't heard of our Arsenal!!! I dont know why, (touching wood) I think/hope we might get a break this season, but already we have Bendtner and Vela injured while obviously Ramsey is on our long term list, while Eduardo and Rosicky are still far from being close to top shape!!! Nasri looks like he is in line for a big season!!! Just saw Fabregas celebrating in a Barcelona jersey, not good!!! :-o |